Harold et al: Don may be getting close. I have several shots of female Cherokee Clubtail starting here if you want to check for comparison: _http://www.pbase.com/rconnorsnaturephoto/image/114267957_ (http://www.pbase.com/rconnorsnaturephoto/image/114267957) RichardConnors Nashville In a message dated 6/30/2010 6:15:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, dnldhlt@xxxxxxx writes: Dear Harold et al Try female Cherokee Clubtail. Don Holt Johnson City, TN