Julius, Thanks so much for the excellent and detailed discussion of field marks for Dion, Broad-winged, and Yehl. These kinds of discussions are priceless for those of us who are struggling to learn the fine points of skipper ID. Let me encourage you and others on this listserve to educate us with other such discussions. I, for one, plan to archive your posting for future reference. Would be nice to have a collection of such postings (especially with clear pics to illiustrate). Would love to see a site someday in which you could find multiple views and specific field marks for all the 'flies of Tennessee. Just a thought. Many thanks again. Doug Downs Sparta, White County, TN _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4