I do not know if I was halucinating this morning at 8.30 AM. Sat on the porch, I first saw a group of about 6 birds busily flycatching thirty feet above the roof. In the dull light the most likely ID was purple martins - dark short wings, spotty gray beneath, swirling about swiftly. Surely this is too late in the fall, but what else? Any other late fall flycatching birds in small flocks? Not chimney swifts for sure. Then, a real puzzle. Two very large birds, gliding by very swiftly, some hundred feet high, no wing beat through a 90 degree arc of sky. Wings against the gray sky appear black, the neck outstretched, head and neck white. Feet trailing, but the brief view and failing short term memory lead to unclear idea about tail length. The birds were headed due north from just below Lebanon, Wilson Co. As a long-term birder, the sight elicited the immediate response " that is something really strange". I am very familiar with sand hill cranes, and figure it is early for them to be passing, and just as a pair exhibiting such a long glide seemed unusual. Also, the clear contrast between neck/head and the apparently black, long narrow wings and the body do not quite match. Some of the observations, gliding and color, seem reminiscent of frigate birds but I have no recollection of the long tail, which can be folded and not look bifid of course. This species I have seen extensively in the past, but unless anyone saw these birds in my area I am certainly not going to give any credence to that ID. Help anyone? Thanks Ralph Brinkhurst Lebanon, Wilson County =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to sign your messages with first and last name, city (town) and state abbreviation. ----------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to: tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TN-Bird Net is owned by the Tennessee Ornithological Society Neither the society(TOS) nor its moderator(s) endorse the views or opinions expressed by the members of this discussion group. Moderator: Wallace Coffey, Bristol, TN wallace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Visit the Tennessee Ornithological Society web site at http://www.tnbirds.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Topographical Maps located at http://topozone.com/find.asp * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ========================================================