As a once and future beekeeper I'm friendly toward all things "hymenopterous" except ground-nesting yellow jackets and fire ants (and my hairy woodpeckers took care of all my carpenter bees, tore holy heck out of the fascia boards to do it, looks like 50-caliber machine gun fire). I give wasps free rein to nest where they will as long as I can get in/out of my front door and in/out of my toolshed without hassles. Right now I have a very productive nest of what I guess are introduced Polistes dominulus, which this year have out-competed my old fashioned red wasps for the first time since I moved here in '99. (I'm going to send some off for identification and if they're not native, I'll start eradicating them next year to allow my native red wasps to reclaim the yard.) Many wasps are insectivorous, and I count them as friendlies just as I do bats, swifts, etc. And although introduced from Europe, yellow hornets are especially big on my list since they just looooooove yellow jackets and flies (fascinating to watch them straddle a yellow jacket, snip off its head with those big mandibles, then can-opener the thorax and delicately eat all the goodies out, throw YJ away and go get another one). According to one hornet aficionado's website, they have such an avid taste for flies that they will divebomb nailheads, little black spots, even moles on your skin. The latter can be extremely disconcerting, of course, but they figure out their mistake quickly and move on, and have no interest in wasting their energy resources on stinging you. Except for yellow jackets, who become extremely testy in the fall, bees and wasps foraging away from their nest are not aggressive and it's difficult to force them to sting you as long as you don't pinch or otherwise restrain them. Even nesting wasps and bees are not a problem as long as you (a) don't bump the nest and (b) don't stop as you pass by at very close range. My primary P. dominulus nest, housing at least 30 wasps, is a mere 16" from the doorknob-side of my front door, and we have all passed the season without the first incident. (And they don't seem at all interested in my hummingbird feeders.) Some years I have a significant wasp-at-the-feeder problem, other years (such as this year) I have almost none. I've found that relocating my feeders for 2-4 days then returning them to their customary positions usually cuts down on the number of wasps slurping up the sugar water and keeping the hummers at bay. My hummers are a lot smarter and less habit-bound than the wasps, plus I hang a long tag of fluorescent pink or orange construction flag from the feeders, so the birds almost immediately spot the relocation while the wasps doggedly return to the old spot for a couple of days before giving up. In my experience, they seldom find the new location, and it takes them days to weeks to return to the original spot. Wasps are your friends, wasps are your friends, wasps are your friends, wasps are your friends... ;) Happy birds AND wasps, Liz Singley Kingston TN ------- Original Message ------- From : Robbie Hassler[mailto:drhass@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent : 8/22/2006 7:20:38 PM To : TN-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc : Subject : RE: [TN-Bird] Wasps TN birders---- I have also been hassled by wasps at my hummer feeders. One feeder has an insect guard with a hole in it. Wasps persist in getting all the way in head first -- so I get my tweezers on it-- crush it's thorax and pull him back out. 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