[TN-Bird] Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Fish Crow in Roane County?]]
- From: Raincrow <raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: John Devereux Joslin <jdjoslin@xxxxxxxxx>,TNbird <tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 16:43:31 -0400
I haven't been completely skeptical because (a) the ones I have heard repeatedly
said "unh-anh" and nothing else, (b) I used to hear FCs all the time that I
lived
along the Pot-o-muck River in N. Virginia so I am pretty familiar with
"unh-anh,",
(c) we have the very occasional pelican along these stretches of the Tennessee &
Clinch (and am I seeing things or are our number of DB cormorants also
increasing
rapidly?), so accidentals such a fish crow in this same area wouldn't be
entirely
out of the question; and (d) back in the good ol' days of Valley Bird Net, I was
also on the VA and WV Audubon listservers, and some of their quite experienced
birders found FCs along the New and other large rivers infrequently but
repeatedly.
A pleasant mystery. (And a pleasant, if humorous-sounding, call. If my memory
serves me from a field trip in the late 90s, Jeff Wilson called them "Virgin
Birds" because they're always [petulantly] saying no.)
Liz Singley
Kingston TN
John Devereux Joslin wrote:
> There much better fish crow experts than I. I only hear them when I'm at the
> beach or within 150 miles of a major body of water. But I can only recall
> hearing two calls--the very characteristic "unh-anh" call--which I've never
> heard from an Amer. Crow (that I could confirm was an Amer. Crow, that is) and
> that very nasal "caw" call. This isn't to say that don't make all those other
> weird vocalizations. I've just never heard them.
> --Dev Joslin
>
> Raincrow wrote:
>
> > Do these juvenile Am crows repeat the same call over and over, as Fish
> > crows seem to do, or do they toss in some nasal, "fishy" vocalizations
> > along with more characteristic Am-crowy calls? And do fish crows have
> > the range of click, frog calls, and mews that Am crows have or do they
> > stick to that "unh-anh" call?
> >
> > Liz Singley
> > Kingston TN
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [TN-Bird] [Fwd: Fish Crow in Roane County?]
> > Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 07:22:58 -0400
> > From: John Devereux Joslin <jdjoslin@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > References: <408DE21C.4A01225C@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > Liz,
> > Thanks for your thoughts. I'm still on the fence on this one.
> > Here's
> > what Mike Roedel (our current State Ornithologist) had to say:
> >
> > Dev,
> > I've tracked down fish crow vocalizations in suspect locations on a few
> > occasions only to find juvenile American crows guilty of the calls.
> > During
> > the past three winters in New Mexico, I had as many as 250 crows at one
> > time
> > coming to my yard in the mornings to feed on chicken scratch. There were
> > a
> > few of them that had extremely odd vocalizations and were recognizable
> > upon
> > their return each year. A couple of that bunch were fluent in fish crow.
> > Mike
> >
> > Raincrow wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Dev
> > > I, too, have heard the very occasional Fish crow here in Kingston, perhaps
> > > 3-4 in the past 10 years. I used to live in Northern Virginia, where both
> > > Fish and Am Crows were as common as starlings, and while the species
> > > tended to "keep to themselves," I have seen a single Fish crow
> > > associate with Am crows (I don't think I ever saw it the other way
> > > around). Maybe this gal/guy is lost and hanging with the most welcoming
> > > and familiar crowd s/he could find...?
> > >
> > > Liz Singley
> > > Kingston TN
> > >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: [TN-Bird] Fish Crow in Roane County?
> > > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 08:04:59 -0400
> > > From: John Devereux Joslin <jdjoslin@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Reply-To: jdjoslin@xxxxxxxxx
> > > To: TN-Bird <tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >
> > > Recently, someone on TN-birds reported a Fish Crow at Kingston Steam
> > > Plant (sorry I forget who it was). Over the past three years, I have
> > > heard at least once, calls that I thought were Fish Crows in my
> > > neighborhood--extremely nasal for a crow. This year I even hear the
> > > Unh-uh call, so characteristic of this species. But when I traced the
> > > caller down, each time he was with other crows that were giving normal
> > > American Crow calls. So I have dismissed this as a crow with an odd
> > > voice.
> > > Since I live in the same county as Kingston Steam Plant (Roane) and
> > > the Unh-uh call is so distinctive, I wonder if I have been remiss in not
> > > reporting these birds. DOES anyone know if Fish Crows will associate
> > > with American Crows in the same flock? And how likely are they to be in
> > > Roane County (middle East Tenn.)?
> > >
> > > Dev Joslin
> > > Oak Ridge, TN
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