[TN-Bird] Re: Can anyone ID this hawk please?

From: Hugh Barger <hughbarger@xxxxxxxxx>
To: stefan.woltmann@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 18:37:34 -0600

Agree with young red-shouldered. Attached is a photo of a very similar
bird from my back fence in late November this year.
[image: Red-Shouldered Hawk, Juvenile, 2018.JPG]

Hugh Barger
Nolensville TN

On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 3:54 PM Stefan Woltmann <stefan.woltmann@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

The bold "checked" pattern on the secondaries separates this young
Red-shouldered Hawk from young Broad-winged (which has plain secondaries).
In addition to the aforementioned seasonal clue - a Broad-wing in Tennessee
in December would be quite rare.

Best birding,

Stefan

On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 8:05 AM Matt Erickson <matterickson7@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

These are tough birds to separate. I can’t speak to the plumage clues
... but I did look up the sighting map in eBird for Broads right now.
There are no recent interior US sightings in the east. Red-shoulders are
being seen “commonly”.

That and my experience with juvenile Red-Shoulders in winter and spring
make me lean that way. But with these great Picts we should be able to get
a ruling.

Thanks,
Matt Erickson

(614) 348-7358

On Dec 15, 2018, at 12:07 AM, Thomas Miko <thomas_miko@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

...and why isn't this a juvenile Broad-winged Hawk?
Tom Miko
California (in shorts and a t-shirt at 9 o'clock at night)
909.241.3300

Thomas Geza Miko
653 S. Indian Hill Blvd.,#C
Claremont, CA 91711
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*From:* tn-bird-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <tn-bird-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on
behalf of Mary Glynn Williamson <maryglynnwilliamson@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Friday, December 14, 2018 5:24:19 PM
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*Subject:* [TN-Bird] Can anyone ID this hawk please?

Juvenile red-shouldered, Coopers or Groshawk perhaps?

Thank you!

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Mary Glynn Williamson
Nashville, Tn
Instagram: @mgw_pics

Sent from my iPhone

--
Stefan Woltmann, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Dept. of Biology, and
Center of Excellence for Field Biology
Austin Peay State University
Clarksville, TN 37044
931-221-7772
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Hugh Barger

References:
- [TN-Bird] Can anyone ID this hawk please?
  - From: Mary Glynn Williamson
- [TN-Bird] Re: Can anyone ID this hawk please?
  - From: Thomas Miko
- [TN-Bird] Re: Can anyone ID this hawk please?
  - From: Matt Erickson
- [TN-Bird] Re: Can anyone ID this hawk please?
  - From: Stefan Woltmann

[TN-Bird] Re: Can anyone ID this hawk please?

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