Why would you need a downtime? We do this now in several 24x7
environments.
Joe
On 3/24/06, *Philip Walley* <mythinlist@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:mythinlist@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I would say that is unacceptable by most standards. my environment for
example runs production servers that require 24x7 access. downtime to
rebuild is not acceptable.
Joe Shonk wrote:
> Well, Citrix and TS are generally considered disposable servers. A
> rebuild of the Citrix servers (atleast for the companies I work
with)
> is quite simple. It's actually easier for us to add/replace a
> component in our scripts and redeploy than it is to "Upgrade" and
> clean up the aftermath.
>
> I know it seems rediculous to want to have a "clean" install of
the OS
> and ServicePack vs just installing the ServicePack later
on, but it's
> a problem that Microsoft created for themselves. Simply look at
> Microsoft's history of Service Packs w/ Terminal Server and you'll
> understand why. W2K SP2, SP3 and SP4 all have had major issues and
> there are reports of W2K3 SP1 having some issues... I switched
to the
> "clean" install concept with W2K Sp3 and have great success with it.
>
> Joe
>
>
> On 3/24/06, *Evan Mann* < emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>
> Or call Citrix support for assistance? For the amount of
money we
> pay for Citrix, I'd be really ticked off if the only
solution was
> to re-install. Does anyone else find that unacceptable?
>
> I certainly can appreciate the desire to have "clean"
installs of
> products, but to be required to re-install after every service
> pack upgrade to an OS is completely ridiculous, for ANY product.
>
>
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> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> [mailto:
> thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>] *On
> Behalf Of *Jeff Pitsch
> *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2006 11:12 AM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
>
>
> Did anyone simply try doing a repair of Citrix after SP1 was
> installed? Just curious.
>
>
> Jeff Pitsch
> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>
> Forums not enough?
> Get support from the experts at your business
> http://jeffpitschconsulting.com
<http://jeffpitschconsulting.com/>
>
>
>
>
> On 3/24/06, *Schneider, Chad M* < CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>
> Uninstall Citrix, install SP1, reinstall Citrix?
>
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>] *On Behalf Of *Justin Martin
> *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2006 9:43 AM
>
>
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
>
>
>
> What are you supposed to do if Citrix PS 4 is already
> installed and you must install 2003 SP 1??
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>] *On Behalf Of *Schneider,
> Chad M
> *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2006 10:26 AM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
>
>
>
> Upgrade to SP1, post Citrix install, you are asking for
problems.
>
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> [mailto:
> thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:
thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>]
> *On Behalf Of *IT Support
> *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2006 8:52 AM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
>
>
>
> How about upgrading to SP1 with Citrix installed?
>
>
>
> I've just put SP1 on one of my servers with a view to
> upgrading the entire farm, but am having problems with
shadow
> keys
>
>
>
> Ie. http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?ID=238
>
>
>
> Is there anything else I should be aware of?
>
>
>
> I don't really fancy rebuilding citrix if I can get away
with it!
>
>
>
> N
>
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> [mailto:
> thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>]
> *On Behalf Of *Schneider, Chad M
> *Sent:* 24 March 2006 14:19
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
>
>
>
> Be sure the server is 2003 SP1 BEFORE you install Citrix.
>
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> [mailto:
> thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>]
> *On Behalf Of *Evan Mann
> *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2006 8:08 AM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
>
>
>
> It's hasn't caused a single problem for me. My 4 PS 4.0
> servers were loaded fresh onto 2003 SP1 boxes. I've run
about
> a dozen pre PS4 R01 updates to fix some printing issues,
and
> others just for "good measure". Haven't gotten a chance to
> install R01 + post R01 fixes yet.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> [mailto:
> thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>]
> *On Behalf Of *Minero, Hector B CIV K55
> *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2006 9:03 AM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> *Subject:* [THIN] Windows 2003 SP1
>
> Does Windows 2003 SP1 still cause problems in PS 4.0?
>
>
>
> I'm getting ready to rebuild some servers and I'm
wondering if
> I should install Win2k3 SP1.
>
>
>
> I tried searching thethin.net <http://thethin.net>
<http://thethin.net/>list
> archives, but that was useless.
>
> Is there a better place to search for list archives?
>
>
>
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