[THIN] Re: What happens when you overload a Citrix server?
- From: "Raffensberger, Stephen D" <sraffens@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 13:25:22 -0400
I don't think Windows will terminate processes or disconnect sessions to
save memory. Paging will simply increase until nothing else gets done.
One other thing to check is the database side. Many client-server
database applications have time-outs or activity throttling within the
database. Maybe someone changed those settings?
Steve Raffensberger
Produban US
sraffens@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Subject: [THIN] Re: What happens when you overload a Citrix server?
Yes.
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Subject: [THIN] Re: What happens when you overload a Citrix server?
Do you have ICA keep alives enabled - just to see if that prevents the
disconnect?
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Subject: [THIN] What happens when you overload a Citrix server?
Running CPS 4.5 on Windows 2003 Standard, 32-bit, SP2. 4 GB RAM.
Our primary application is Microsoft Dynamics GP as a published
application. This has a memory footprint of 150-200MB per user, and we
currently are seeing 20-25 users per box (i.e., 5GB+ of memory
footprint)
Recently our users have begun experiencing session disconnects,
especially when coming back from being idle (walked away from their
desk, turned to take a phone call, etc). We have no timeouts set on the
ICA sessions and sometimes connection is lost even if they turn away for
less than 5 minutes.
One theory is that the processes are dying because the servers are under
memory stress (which they are), and that Windows is killing these
processes to relieve the pressure. It may be killing the dynamics.exe
process itself, or the ODBC connection between the application and the
SQL server is being lost, which apparently causes the Dynamics GP
application to wet itself and die.
So, my question(s) is/are:
- When Windows is under severe memory pressure, will it just
terminate processes? If so, how does it determine which ones?
- When it does so, will there be anything logged in Event
Viewer? If not, how can one confirm that in fact Windows is killing
processed in order to reduce memory footprint?
If this is in fact the root cause, of course we have some options, like:
- build more servers (scale out)
- build bigger servers (scale up). We may be able to do 64-bit,
but that will break new ground for us and I don't know how long that
will take us to do. Would going to 2003 32-bit Enterprise Edition, and
providing 8 or 16GB of RAM, help? Again, we are theorizing that the
server is running out of RAM resources, not necessarily running out of
kernel memory resources, so would throwing more RAM by way of Enterprise
edition going to help?
Thanks for the assistance.
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