[THIN] Re: Web Browsers
- From: "Trevor Fuson" <fuson@xxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:24:30 -0700
This is because IE actually has a great deal of its code spread
throughout the windows O/S. The memory utilization report for IE is
lower that it appears because the base browser components are already
loaded into memory under other processes such as explorer. When you
start loading multiple copies of the browser it becomes evident that IE
isn't as efficient as it leads on to be.
1 Browser Instance with a Blank Page:
firefox.exe 15.4 MB
iexplore.exe 10.3 MB
2 Browser Instances with a Blank Page:
firefox.exe 16.4 MB
iexplore.exe 20.6 MB
2 Brower Instances pointing to www.news.com:
firefox.exe 21.3 MB
iexplore.exe 40.6 MB
It is possible to configure IE to run as a single instance like firefox;
however by default it launches multiple instances because of stability
issues. The end result is significantly higher memory consumption with
IE when windows is installed on a computer with more than 32MB of RAM.
Even if IE runs in a single instance it would still consume more memory
than firefox.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Greg Reese
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:13 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Web Browsers
can that profile.ini file be redirected out of their profile to their
home directory?
One thing I noticed is that Firefox uses almost twice the memory that IE
does. I opened cnn.com on one server with IE and then on another server
with Firefox. IE was using around 20,000K and Firefox was using
39,000k. Could be a quirk of each server though.
Greg
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Trevor Fuson
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:15 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Web Browsers
I have to agree, Firebird is really the best browser for Terminal
Services.
Here is why:
1. It is a very tight browser, it has excellent performance.
2. It doesn't have the broad spectrum of vulnerabilities that IE
has.
3. The 250MS draw delay saves bandwidth and increases end user
responsiveness. By contrast IE renders the page dynamically, or you can
change it to render the page in the background. Unfortunately IE draw
in background results in the end users waiting for a long time for pages
to display.
4. Tabbed browsing and popup blocking built-in.
5. Customizable UI. You can remove any visual element, such as a
menu item, by editing the browser.xul file. This file is contained in
the zip file named browser.jar.
6. The control panel is extremely simple and easy to use for end
users, there are not unnecessary item in the control panel to confuse
them. Administrators can customize the browsers 500+ configuration
options by typing about:config in the address bar.
Firefox is nicer than Mozilla as well because the salting for the
profile directory is easier to handle.
Mozilla uses a binary file in C:\Documents and
Settings\%USERNAME%\Application Data\Mozilla called registry.dat to
specify the location of the user profile. This binary file stores the
full path to the profile information, meaning the username changes an
you need some way to modify the path in the binary file.
Firefox uses a plain text .ini file, C:\Documents and
Settings\%USERNAME%\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\profile.ini. The
path in the ini file is relative. This means that the changes you make
in the profile in the default user account works properly for all users
in the terminal server. Not to mention it is much easier editing the
profile file.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jim Kenzig http://thin.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 6:29 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Web Browsers
Correct as in MOZILLA Firefox. Works fine on Citrix.
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Schill, Mark
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:08 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Web Browsers
If you just need a browser and nothing else I would recommend
Firefox.
Mark E. Schill, CCA
BellSouth Technology Group
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig
http://thin.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 8:37 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Web Browsers
What is wrong with Mozilla?
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Greg Reese
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 8:30 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Web Browsers
I have been asked to explore web browser alternatives
for our Windows 2003 terminal servers.
Personally, I like Opera a lot and use it on my laptop
but it may be a little much for my users.
Has anyone loaded up other browsers on Windows 2003 and
what kind of problems have you run into in doing so.
Thanks!
Greg
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