[THIN] Re: VDA License required for XP Pro
- From: Russell Robertson <russell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:24:09 +0100
Hi Andrew
Thanks for the reply.
This just shows the mess that MS licensing is in.
Let's ignore the FPP as that doesn't count and I'm expecting to be able to
assign a Win 7 license from Select to the thin clients. The client have
already purchased Windows 7 via Select so it's a sunk cost.
Key query here is; "do I need a VDA license for XP Pro"? I'm hoping not and
that it's only a requirement for Windows 7.
Cheers
Russell
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Andrew Wood
Sent: 11 April 2011 23:33
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: VDA License required for XP Pro
Russell,
Windows 7 Professional, Windows Vista Business or windows XP Professional
obtained through a Volume License upgrade, when purchased on top of a
qualifying operating system license (i.e. for their existing PCs) has all the
limitations of a full packaged product (FPP) license.
FPP can be used for VDI if:
1) The physical server on which the virtual desktop is installed is
assigned to 1 user. This is obviously nuts, but it is legal.
2) You assign a FPP to a device, and you use that device to access to the
VM *under the condition that* you don't move that VM around. It can only be
present on 1 server. So - no vmotion/xenmotion or load balancing. So - for
every device that has an OEM windows license that you've "upgraded" with your
volume license that counts as 1 license to access a VM, but that VM can only go
on 1 server.
So - for your PCs, you could leave them as is with these caveats above - point
2 is important. You might consider that OK; you might only have 1 main server
or accept that each user's VM will only be available from 1 server.
Each of the thin clients (as they don't have an OEM license assigned) needs to
have a VDA license. As does any corporate smartphone/tablet. Bear in mind your
VDA license is a cost per device, per year.
You may consider that pt 2) is a PITA - you can solve that by getting SA for
those VLs. With VDA & SA you get (drum roll Animal please...)
* Install Windows 7/Windows Vista/Windows XP virtual machines on any
combination of hardware and storage
* Unlimited movement between servers and storage
* Access corporate desktop images from non-corporate owned
Windows-based PCs (home use, but not those deluded Mac users... splitters)
* The primary user of a Windows VDA device has extended roaming rights,
which means that the Punter can access their VDI desktop from any device
outside of the corporate environment, such as a home PC or an internet kiosk
(even if they have a Mac)
* Eligibility for other Software Assurance products, such as MDOP and
Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs
* Single Windows VDA license allows concurrent access for up to 4 VMs
* Reassignment rights to another device after 90 days, or in the case
of end-point failure
* Dynamic desktop licensing enabled through KMS/MAK activation &
indeed, access to Enterprise versions of Windows.
* Unlimited backups of both running and stored VMs (woo)
* Includes Software Assurance (SA) benefits such as 24x7 call support,
training vouchers, trips to disney land*, rocket ships to mars* etc.
Note the "outside of the corporate environment" - a roaming license lets your
punter use their VDA/SA license to access their desktop from their
tablet/smartphone *until they bring it into the office* - then it needs a
license. Again, nuts - but Be Aware.
Links?
Licensing Windows for Virtual Desktops Whitepaper:
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCwQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdownload.microsoft.com%2Fdownload%2FC%2F6%2F7%2FC673E444-6DDD-40B8-B29F-625354F2A8F7%2FLicensing_Windows_for_Virtual_Desktops_Whitepaper.pdf&ei=JH2jTaD5BcOxhAez2dz1BA&usg=AFQjCNFVSHX_5GZICVF8-ceOdEdNasKWFg
Licensing VDI for Microsoft Desktops - is it rocket science?
http://www.virtualizationpractice.com/blog/?p=9389
Applications and OS Licensing: Remote Access and Roaming Use:
http://tonymackelworth.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/applications-and-os-licensing-remote-access-and-roaming-use/
hth
* * these items may not be true but could be added once MS run out of
ideas.
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Russell Robertson
Sent: 11 April 2011 20:20
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] VDA License required for XP Pro
Hello
I have a client who is looking at rolling out XP via XD5. My query is, do they
need a VDA license for XP Pro? It would be delivered to both desktops PCs and
thin clients. The client has Windows 7 via Select Agreement. No SA. They don't
want to roll out Win 7 yet due to app compatibility so that's not an option.
Anyone done this already? Pointers to MS documents would be great.
Thanks
Russell
Russell Robertson | Virtual Stream
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