Hi Michael, Have a look for instances of csrss.exe and winlogon.exe, or indeed any other applications that are associated with a session ID when not many users are logged on. What will happen if the O.S. can't kill a user's processes after a logoff or session reset is that the processes with become associated with SYSTEM rather than a user. However the originating session ID will still be there. It might give you a clue as to what's failing. An example that we've seen is where a user tries to print a huge powerpoint 2000 presentation. Powerpoint will go to 100% of a cpu, the session will lock up and the user finally gives up and disconnects. Powerpoint at that point won't let itself be killed so it gets associated with System and just stayus there, wasting CPU cycles. regards, Rick Ulrich Mack rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Volante Systems 18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064 Queensland Australia tel +61 7 32467704 -----Original Message----- From: Michael Hagberg [mailto:michael.hagberg@xxxxxx] Sent: Monday, 30 June 2003 7:00 PM To: 'Thin (E-mail)' Subject: [THIN] User session hangs Server: W2K SP3 with MF XP FR2/SP2 Citrix Hotfixes : XE102W022, 029, 066 Server Hotfixes : Q322845, 322913, 323172, 324096, 324380, 326830, 326886, 327269, 328020, 329115, 329834, 328310, 328981, 329170, 331953, 810833, 329553, 811493, 814033, 815021 DataStore : SQL DataStore OS : WK2 DataStore SP : SP3 When a user logs on to one of the Citrix servers it hangs after awhile. When the user terminates the session on his local machine and tries to log on again it stops at the windows logon page. When looking in the CMC on the server we don't see any users at all but we see there processes for a short while but they also disapear after about 2 minutes. The only thing that helps is to reboot the server. This problem firts occured after installing the following Citrix hotfixes which later was removed, XE102W013, 059 and 057. Any suggestions? Thanks a million Michael -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be subject to legal professional privilege. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you receive this e-mail by mistake please promptly inform us by reply e-mail and then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. You must not disclose or use in any way the information in the e-mail. There is no warranty that this email or any attachment or message is error or virus free. It may be a private communication, and if so, does not represent the views of Volante group Limited.