Well that's what I thought. But Sun is in here claiming "This can replace Citrix". ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:40 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Sun Ray That is a good analysis. Sun Ray's are dedicated frame buffer devices that attach to a Sun UNIX host for processing. The pro's are good performance and nicely controlled environment, the cons are high cost and proprietary technology. Sun Ray's are not an alternate to Citrix per se because they still use TS, PS or Tarantella to present Windows applications. If you run Citrix on a Sun Ray, the Citrix client runs on UNIX on the host and is displayed on the Sun Ray. Good for when you want to mix with Sun based apps, extra layers and cost if you only want to execute Windows..... Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 www.thinclient.net steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Wood Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:44 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Sun Ray As far as I can tell - its not 'Citrix' as a direct comparison is it? It offers a slightly different architecture and I'd suggest is aimed at a semgent of the citrix market rather than a direct competitor. SGD allows you to federate your applications from the back end and present them to the user's java based client via a single protocol (AIP) - this does seem the same as Citrix with say ICA and web interface. But, AIP runs from the client to the sgd server(s) - the sgd server(s) act as a client for the backend session (be that ica/rdp/x11) So instead of combining the citrix/windows terminal server on the same hardware (like citrix does), potentially you not only introduce the SGD software, but you have to have separate hardware to run it on. When I've read through the documentation I saw the architecture more like that of, say, a secure gateway server - in that it took session protocols from the internal network, and allowed them to be published to the clients securely via a different protocol. I saw it more useful for an environment that might have a mix of protocols (such as x11/rdp) and wanted to provide a single interface and management structure for access to that. So - if i was deploying Citrix to allow my linux/unix environment access to windows based servers via ICA, SGD could be an alternative. However, for a pure windows enviroment it would adding a level of complexity (due to the extra hardware/different OS) that wouldn't come from a citrix/provisionnetworks type solution. I've only just started to look at this - I'd be grateful if someone else has looked and has any feedback on this as well. ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Monroe, Frank Sent: 28 August 2006 19:41 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Sun Ray Has anyone done a comparison of this with Citrix? http://www.sun.com/software/products/sgd/ <http://www.sun.com/software/products/sgd/>