Another reason we found is Access Gateway's High Availability pair needs Session Reliability for ica sessions fail-over. --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Session Reliability > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 9:58 AM > I agree with Rick- Session Reliability is recommended when > you have a known > situation of recurring short term disconnects. However it > may not be a > benefit to turn on "just because". As Rick > explains it does not really make > sessions more reliable, it just presents a less frustrating > appearance > during the period of time the session is off line and is > trying to > re-connect. > > > > > > > > Steve Greenberg > > Thin Client Computing > > 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 > > Scottsdale, AZ 85266 > > (602) 432-8649 > > www.thinclient.net > > steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > _____ > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of Rick Mack > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:53 PM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: Session Reliability > > > > Hi Angela, > > > > The concept behind session reliability is to hide the > disconnect/reconnect > event from users. It doesn't actually improve things > for your users, but > instead of their sessions disconnecting and reconnecting, > the session just > appears to hang for a bit and then starts again. Session > reliability is > actually a really bad name for this enhancement because it > doesn't do what > it implies. > > > > Session reliability is functionally a wrapper for standard > ICA that > encapsulates the ICA protocol and allows you to handle > stuff like > transparent session reconnection. However it uses a > different port to ICA, > TCP port 2598. The session reliability listener is the > Citrix XTE service > which then passes the ICA traffic on to the ICA listener. > > > > So far so good, but there are 2 potential problems. > > > > The first is that the XTE service hasn't been totally > stable in the past > with recurring instances of memory leaks and instability > depending on hotfix > levels. If the XTE service starts playing up, session > reliability just > became your worst enemy. > > > The second problem relates to the use of a different TCP > port. It's fairly > common these days to set network QOS to favour ICA traffic > when you use > Citrix. Everyone, especially your average comms person, > knows that ICA is on > TCP port 1494 and that is what is used to identify ICA > packets for QOS > prioritization. > > > > When you switch on session reliability you are no longer > using port 1494. So > any QOS optimization you've got for ICA suddenly > disappears, and in a worst > case scenario, session performance can go out the door, you > start seeing a > lot more disconnections and session reliability becomes > "session liability". > > > > However if your users are suffering a reasonable number of > disconnections > and that is creating annoyance and political problems for > you, then by all > means investigate using session reliability. But make sure > that if you are > using QOS, that you co-ordinate with your comms people and > ISP so that when > you enable session reliability nothing will break. Make > absolutely certain > that they know ICA can use port 1494 AND port 2598. > > > > And good luck :-) > > > > regards, > > > > Rick > > > > -- > Ulrich Mack > Quest Software > Provision Networks Division > > On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Angela Smith > <angela_smith9@xxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > Hi > > Im looking at enabling session reliability on my CPS 4 > farm. Are there any > gotchas I need to be aware of or could this cause more > issues? Im aware of > the port changes but I wanted to know if most people are > using this or > whether session performance is slower due to the additional > connection > checks.. > > Thanks > Angela > > _____ > > Download free emoticons today! Holiday > <http://livelife.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=669758> > cheer from > Messenger. ************************************************ For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: //www.freelists.org/list/thin Follow ThinList on Twitter http://twitter.com/thinlist Thin List discussion is now available in blog format at: http://thinmaillist.blogspot.com Thinlist MOBILE Feed http://thinlist.net/mobile ************************************************