I thought that was supposed to be the plan... Everything is Metaframe... Because people already know/recognise it... If that is the case why are only 7% of potential customers using it...? AndyL -----Original Message----- From: Claus, Brian [mailto:BClaus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 27 June 2003 15:26 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Secure Access Manager vs. Citrix Secure Gateway Thanks for the info guys... I don't know about anyone else but are you getting a little sick of the "rebranding\renaming" that Citrix has been doing lately? COMON CITRIX! Pick a name and stick with it! =3D20 _____ =3D20 =3D20 Brian Claus, A+, Network+, MCP Network Administrator WESCO Distribution, Inc. 225 West Station Square Drive, Suite 700 Pittsburgh, PA 15219-1122 Phone: 412-454-2412 Fax: 412-454-2540 bclaus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bclaus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>=3D20 _____ =3D20 -----Original Message----- From: Andy Cave [mailto:Andy.Cave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 9:51 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Secure Access Manager vs. Citrix Secure Gateway Its not simply marketing because SAM incorporates enhancements to NFuse Elite thats why I described its as "a re-branded NFuse Elite 2.0". -----Original Message----- From: Schneider, Chad M. [mailto:CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: 27 June 2003 14:42 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Secure Access Manager vs. Citrix Secure Gateway Actually, there is no more NFUSE Elite, it is simply Secure Access Manager. All marketing.=3D20 -----Original Message----- From: Andy Cave [mailto:Andy.Cave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20 Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 8:39 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' I believe this is the next release of NFuse Elite ie a re-branded NFuse Elite 2.0. It has some enhancements one being integration with Citrix Secure Gatway 2.0. So now you can secure your NFuse Elite Portal with Secure Gateway, rather than having to use Reverse Proxy etc. Secure Gateway 2.0 is a seperate product available in FR3, its enhancements from CSG 1.1 include ability to encrpt traffic from CSG to the STA, improved diagnostic tools, compatibility with double-hop DMZs etc. -----Original Message----- From: Claus, Brian [mailto:BClaus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 27 June 2003 14:18 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Secure Access Manager vs. Citrix Secure Gateway Ok, can anyone tell me in plain English (not Citrix's marketing =3D3D language) just what Secure Access Manger is and how it differs from CSG? ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor - RTOSoft TScale Complaints about applications response time - DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! TScale 2.0 improves applications response time and increases terminal server capacity. Really get MORE from your existing servers! 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