[THIN] Re: SV: Re: OT: SQL 2000 on Win2K3 Server, /PAE /3GB again

  • From: "Evan Mann" <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 08:49:38 -0400

I'm glad Microsoft doesn't try to get you for 2 processors licenses for
every single HT enabled processor you have.  2 dual Xeon boxes is bad
enough to licenses, but if you had to pay for 8 CPUs total, ouch!
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-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Svein Arild Haugum
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 5:39 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] SV: Re: OT: SQL 2000 on Win2K3 Server, /PAE /3GB again

Yes, its true, you need SQL Enterprise edition to use more than 2GB for
=3D SQL. And that cost like hell.

Mvh
Svein Arild


-----Opprinnelig melding-----
Fra: Brian Madden [mailto:brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sendt: 20. april 2004 20:22
Til: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Emne: [THIN] Re: OT: SQL 2000 on Win2K3 Server, /PAE /3GB again


I don't agree with the statement that SQL will cap at 2GB on a 4GB box.
Using the /3GB switch will allow the SQL service to address 3GB of RAM
instead of 2GB.

I do believe you need to be using the Enterprise Edition of SQL for it
to access more than 2GB of RAM, though.

Brian

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-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Henry Sieff
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 11:57 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: SQL 2000 on Win2K3 Server, /PAE /3GB again

It'll 'use' it, but it won't use it for SQL or exchange - that'll cap at
2
GB on a 4 GB box. I do the same thing; pretty much the only servers I
don't do that with are Citrix and file/print. Also played around with
AWE on SQL, but it actually didn't work out for me (this was early on in
SQL2K, though, so maybe I will revisit the issue).

Henry

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> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Evan Mann
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 11:53 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: SQL 2000 on Win2K3 Server, /PAE /3GB again=20
>=3D3D20 =3D3D20  I opted for /3GB on my SQL Boxes and Exchange Boxes =
(both=20
>4GB=3D3D20  of RAM and  dedicated to their respective apps).  I wasn't=20
>sure if the system  actually used the 4GB w/o the /3GB switch, but the=20
>3 GB to=3D3D20  user mode is  definitely what I want.
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> Thanks,
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> Evan=3D3D3D20
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> -----Original Message-----
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>Behalf Of Brian Madden
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:45 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: SQL 2000 on Win2K3 Server, /PAE /3GB again=20
>=3D3D20  You do not need PAE.
>=3D3D20
> By default, the 4GB of RAM is split 50/50 between the kernel and your

>applications (i.e. SQL). You would probably be well served to=3D3D20  =
use

>/3GB,  because that will give you 3GB for the apps (SQL) and =
leave=3D3D20

>only 1GB for  the kernel. If this is a dedicated SQL server, 1GB should

>be=3D3D20  plenty for  the SQL server.
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> (If this is also, for example, a busy file server or DC, I probably =20
>wouldn't mess with /3GB and leave the memory split 50/50.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On

>Behalf Of Henry Sieff
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:48 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: SQL 2000 on Win2K3 Server, /PAE /3GB again=20
>=3D3D20  The 3GB switch operates as before. Not sure about the =
PAE.=3D3D20

>You also have  more flexibility ib the memory tuning.
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> > Behalf Of Evan Mann
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> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] OT: SQL 2000 on Win2K3 Server, /PAE /3GB=3D3D20
> again =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D
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> >I have SQL 2000 SP3a Enterprise on Windows 2003 Enterprise=3D3D20
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> >4GB of ram.
> > Do I need either the /3GB or the /PAE switch to use the 4GB of RAM?
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