[THIN] Re: One of the Apps running on Citrix has no install p rogram

Manually creating an msi package from scratch  with 3rd party compiler type
program. You just specify all  folders\files to be included and it does the
rest.

There are also options such as adding custom registry items\odbc
connections\environment variables\registering dlls and COM
components\install parameters\Launch conditions but I have been omitting the
use of anything there as I am not sure what I would really need to add.

-----Original Message-----
From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:02 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: One of the Apps running on Citrix has no install p
rogram

Are you taking a snapshot ( before and after) or are you manually creating
an msi from scratch ?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Parr" <sparr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:58 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: One of the Apps running on Citrix has no install p
rogram


> I notice that the msi I have created and installed on a test Citrix box
> creates a ton of registry entries with all other things being equal is
> probably a good thing.. am wondering if there were any key areas to watch
> out for to enhance how things run on Citrix...registry entries look good
but
> may not be actually all be making much of a diff as well..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Parr [mailto:sparr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 3:52 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: One of the Apps running on Citrix has no install p
> rogram
>
> No steps just update version of MDAC if not high enough..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 3:44 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: One of the Apps running on Citrix has no install p
> rogram
>
> What steps do you have to do on a brand new o/s install with the
application
> ?
>
> Register DLLs ? Copy Ini files ? add registry entries ? Create ODBC
> connections ?
> You can do all of that with an msi file quite easily.
>
> I was in the same boat as you with one of our vendors installation
routines.
> The installation routine was so awful on workstations the departments were
> crying out for Citrix delivery to cut down on the amount of installs
> required.
> The vendor did have notes for Citrix/TS installs and these were even worse
> with a service required and the configuration had to be done using the
> service account ...urgh.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Parr" <sparr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:27 PM
> Subject: [THIN] Re: One of the Apps running on Citrix has no install p
> rogram
>
>
> >
> > I am pretty much on my own with this one and was wondering what things
to
> > look for in creating an install package so that life will be better
> running
> > this app without an install program on Citrix. The app without a face
> right
> > now. :)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Parr [mailto:sparr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 3:21 PM
> > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: One of the Apps running on Citrix has no install p
> > rogram
> >
> > Mike the app is fairly respectable initself and there is a very large
> > codebase already there. The SQL backend is new for them - they have
ported
> > from pervasive-SQL backend engine(not real SQL as we know it - anytime a
> > drive has to be mapped to backend I call that more like file sharing)
> > Anyways they are stubborn and feel that because their app has run for
> years
> > without an install program why would they need one now. So I am trying
to
> > bridge this attitude gap. They don't know or care about the further
> > complications of running something in multiuser mode such as Citrix or
TS.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: msemon@xxxxxxx [mailto:msemon@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 3:03 PM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: One of the Apps running on Citrix has no install
> program
> >
> > Something doesn't sound right. Could have a small VB app as front end to
> > SQL.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Original Message:
> > -----------------
> > From: Steve Parr sparr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 15:04:13 -0500
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] One of the Apps running on Citrix has no install program
> >
> >
> > The vendor is lazy and thinks it is not required. They give our Apps
group
> > the program files and they have been copying to workstations and just
> > running that way. Before letting this run on Citrix would like to take a
> > crack at creating an install for this
> > for the purpose of being able to install in change user /install mode so
> > things get a proper chance to be set up in the mutiuser environment that
> > Citrix\TS is. What things should I look for to know that the install
> program
> > will do what it ideally should for TS\Citrix? I have used an installer
> > program put out by Caphypon called Advanced Installer. Have run this and
> > created an .msi package that comes out to about 600 mbs - the program
> files
> > prior to being compressed into CAB files is at 1.2 Gbs. Seems to work
but
> > not tested under load yet. According to the vendor there are up to 400
> > .exe's and many other supporting files and is reason program files so
> large
> > in size. This amazes me a bit as the architecture on the back end is MS
> SQL
> > so I do not see the need to be so fat on the client but maybe I just
have
> > not been around long enough. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> >
> > Steve Parr
> > Metroland Printing, Publishing and Distributing Ltd.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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