On this note: I was thinking of writing a script that copied all the published applications (short of servers), load evaluators, printer mapping etc from one farm to another. The idea would be that in a small environment (3 or5 servers etc) you could create a "new" DS run the script against the old farm copy all the published apps and stuff short of licenses and server specific stuff over to the new one then move your servers. You could then add servers into the apps assigned your evaluators and licensing stuff... Think this would be a good one to have out there. Yeah, I know. My lawyer finally gave me the OK to write and distribute scripts again, they just have to have a legal warning in them like the size of the bible. Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect Microsoft MVP - Windows Server RapidApp, Chicago Mobile 815 325-7618 Office 312 372-7188 e-mail roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Hathaway Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:31 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Upgrade strategy question... Dave, =20 Personally I would think it cleaner to migrate the data store for the current farm into your SQL, update all your servers with the change. Retire the NT server from the farm, and then add your new server in.=20 Unless there's a reason you want to create a new farm and potentially redo the following: - reactivate Citrix licensing - recreate all published apps - recreate printer mappings (if assigned through the CMC) - re-import print servers - etc . . .=20 Moving from Access to SQL is easy and a few methods on doing it have been posted to this list before, so a quick search should get you the run down on it. Just make sure you do a "dsmaint backup" prior to starting the process.=20 Good luck J -----Original Message----- From: DMelczer@xxxxxxxx [mailto:DMelczer@xxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:22 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Upgrade strategy question... For the gurus out there: =20 We currently have a Windows 2000 SP4 / MF XP 1.0 FR1 farm of 3 servers. We also have 1 NT4 SP6a machine running MetaFrame XP 1.0 FR1 acting as a data collector with an access datastore on the machine. No one logs into the NT4 machine, but the three 2000 boxes are in production currently. =20 I need to upgrade or replace the NT4 box to get it to Windows 2000 and get the other 3 machines to use this new machine as the indirect access to the datastore. Also, I need to port the datastore from MS Access to SQL. =20 What I plan to do is the following: =20 1. Create a new machine with Windows 2000 SP4 and MF XP 1.0 FR1 in a NEW farm using the existing MS Access datastore. 2. Move the existing production servers over to the new farm. =20 3. Convert the datastore from MS Access to SQL. =20 Is this a viable strategy, or is there a simpler way of doing things? =20 I looked at citrix.com/support, but it appears like they removed just about all documents pre-FR3, so the old advanced concepts guide that would walk an admin through upgrade from NT4 to 2000 and datastore migration doesn't appear to be available. =20 Thanks in advance for any help. =20 -Dave Melczer dmelczer@xxxxxxxx <mailto:dmelczer@xxxxxxxx>=20 =20 ********************************************************************** Please be advised that this transmittal may be a confidential attorney-client communication or may otherwise be privileged or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by e-mail (postmaster@xxxxxxxx) or by telephone (call us collect at 212-403-4357) and delete this message and any attachments. 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