Secure Access Manager is not a requirement for CSG. You just need an existing Citrix infrastructure. CSG is not really that complicated of a solution and the latest version has all the GUI diagnostic utilities that earlier versions lacked. The CSG is now supported on the same machine as the Web Interface (WI) and the Secure Ticket Authority can reside on any machine in the internal network. The CSG/WI box does not need to be a workhorse so equipment that you are retiring from other uses would likely be a viable option. Beyond an ICA client ( 6.3 (Intel/Win) or greater that your clients probably already have...) there is nothing needed on the client machine. And now to the best part.... CSG costs you nothing... It's FREE. Tim Anderson Senior Engineering Consultant Server Centric Consulting LLC 11939 Manchester Rd. #110 St. Louis, MO 63131 (888) 747 - 4700 <http://www.servercentric.com/> www.servercentric.com All electronic mail communications originating from or transmitted to Server Centric Consulting are subject to monitoring. This message and the information contained in it, which may consist of electronic data attachments, are the confidential and proprietary communications of SCC and are intended to be received only by the individual or individuals to whom the message has been addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, please take notice that any use, copying, printing, forwarding or distribution of this message, in any form, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the SCC Privacy Officer at (888) 747-4700 and/or forward the message to privacy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and delete or destroy all copies of this message. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Armstrong, Robert Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 11:33 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Netilla Appliance for Citrix Access - Opinions Needed Steve, Thank you for the feedback. What, in your opinion makes CSG a better option? It seems that the complexity of the setup and the licensing costs of Secure Access Manager make CSG a hard sell compared to the seemingly simplistic setup and management of the Netilla solution. I'm just confused about what will be the best solution now and in the future (with future releases of Presentation Server). One thing I really need is a solution that will require the least amount of client setup and support. Regards, Rob -----Original Message----- From: Steve Greenberg [mailto:steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 12:00 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Netilla Appliance for Citrix Access - Opinions Needed Netilla is a great standalone platform if you are using Terminal Server, internal Web apps or needs an SSL VPN. However, if you already have Citrix, Citrix Secure Gateway is a better match. Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 (602) 296-0411 fax steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Armstrong, Robert Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 5:22 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Netilla Appliance for Citrix Access - Opinions Needed Greetings, I'm writing to see if anyone has experience with the Netilla SSL VPN appliance in accessing Citrix publications from the internet. Please let me know what your opinions are on this product. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Regards, Robert Armstrong Manager of Information Technology Invesmart, Inc. 4550 Lena Drive, Suite 201 Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 p: (717) 591-8900 x132 f: (717) 591-9822 e-mail: <mailto:robert.armstrong@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> robert.armstrong@xxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient or authorized to receive this for the intended recipient, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by sending a reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. _____ _____ This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient or authorized to receive this for the intended recipient, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by sending a reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. _____