[THIN] Re: MS Licensing Servers

I'm anxiously awaiting to see how many folks end up mysteriously "broken" after 
the patch that fixes that.

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From: Nick Smith [mailto:nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 11:05 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MS Licensing Servers

TSCALS is per user mode are not currently enforced in Win2K3. They should be, 
and probably will be in a distant service pack, but right now they're not.


From: Jeremy Thomas [mailto:jeremy.thomas@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: 28 June 2004 16:04
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: MS Licensing Servers
IIRC, a Win2K3 server can act as a TS license server to Win2K servers and 
clients.
 
Don't confuse CALs with TSCALs - they're not the same thing. TSCALs are 
enforced, and CALs are not.
 
IIRC, you can no longer buy a 2000 CAL / TSCAL - You buy a 2003 CAL / TSCAL, 
and that covers you for 2000 as well.


From: Miguel-Guzman@xxxxxxx [mailto:Miguel-Guzman@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday 28 June 2004 16:43
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MS Licensing Servers
Thanks for your reply, which cleared up the whole NT4 thing.

But, I need to revisit my question; all my servers will be running Win2k, not 
Win2k3 sorry; I have a combination of Win2k and Win2k3 CALs.

I know now that I will need a Win2k3 server to use my Win2k3 calls; so I will 
configure a Win2k3 licensing server.

Could I use Win2k3 licenses to allow the users to connect to the Win2k servers?
Or could I enter my Win2k3 licenses as Win2k licenses? 

Thanks!

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Miguel Enrique Guzmán
Network Analyst I 
Sarasota Memorial Health Care System
1700 South Tamiami Trail
Sarasota, FL 34239 
Miguel-Guzman@xxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Jeremy Thomas
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 8:51 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: MS Licensing Servers

Without checking the facts or doing the research to back them up...
 
I'd try to go for 2003 servers for all your terminal servers.
 
TS licensing won't work on NT4.0 as it's a Windows 2000/2003 component.
 
If you'll have an AD domain controller available within 90 days, wait and 
install the license service on that. (Don't forget, and don't let it go beyond 
90 days, or you'll be stuck)
 
Failing that, I'd install the Terminal Server Licensing Server on a Win2003 
server. It's not a heavy service. Set up you terminal servers as pointing to 
that particular prefered server for licensing. When you have an AD domain 
controller, backup the license server database and restore it to the DC, then 
remove the "prefered server" pointer on all your TSs. That's assuming you can 
restore a license database to another server...
 
Read the white papers available from MS on TS licensing until all this makes 
sense to you.
 
Regards,
J
 


From: Miguel-Guzman@xxxxxxx [mailto:Miguel-Guzman@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday 28 June 2004 14:27
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] MS Licensing Servers
Hi All,

I will be upgrading our MF1.8 NT4 to MFXP Win2k and Win2k3 servers; we are 
currently running a NT4 domain, and we are in the process of upgrading it to AD 
(this will be done after our Citrix and TSE upgrade); our current licensing 
service is located on our NT4 PDC.

I have questions about the MS Licensing Servers:

Can I set up our NT4 Licensing Server (NT4 PDC) to serve our Windows 2k and 2k3 
licenses?
If we can, when we upgrade to AD and migrate our TSE licenses, how would our 
TSE environment react to this?

Thank you!

There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness"


Miguel Enrique Guzmán
Network Analyst I 
Sarasota Memorial Health Care System
1700 South Tamiami Trail
Sarasota, FL 34239 
Miguel-Guzman@xxxxxxx
http://www.smh.com 
tel: 
fax: 
mobile: 
(941) 917-7084
(941) 917-2420
(941) 302-0605 





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