Hi Jason, PN on 1.8 srvers uses named pipes for inter-server sharing of the program neighbourhood info. This makes it extraordinarily sensitive to any netbios comms issues. If a server is having performance or other problems, it may not be able to keep its PN app lists etc up to date. Since PN quries are load balanced, it's generally good odds that the sick server will be the one replying to the ICA clients' PN app enquiry. I suspect that if you make a habit of checking out the least loaded (according to LBS) server in your farm, you might just track down the culprit. regards, Rick Ulrich Mack rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Volante Systems 18 Heussler Terrace Milton 4064, Queensland Australia tel +61 7 32467777 -----Original Message----- From: jason.weems@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jason.weems@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:15 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Issue: applications dropping off PN Application List?? I talked to citrix and they referred me to document CTX228356. One of the things they want me to do is perform a 'Qserver /debugnhwatch' on every server and compare the output. With 40+ servers and each output 450+ pages, this is over 18,000 lines of text to compare. Anyone have any suggestions looking for relevant discrepancies using the Citrix Qserver /debugnhwatch utility? Regards, Jason -----Original Message----- From: Weems, Jason Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 11:02 AM To: thin Cc: Weems, Jason Subject: [THIN] Issue: applications dropping off PN Application List?? We started experiencing an issue today where some of our applications are sporadically dropping off the application list (typically from the same servers). When you Refresh sometimes they will return and sometimes they will drop off, however when they are listed they work without issue. Most of the applications seem to be only published to one server; I'm wondering if it is an issue w/ the ICA Browser service. Have tried stopping/starting ICA browser service on offending servers, rebooting Master Browsers on each subnet and finally restarting offending servers. Environment: 40+ Citrix MetaFrame servers, Windows NT 4.0 SP3 using IMS and LBS. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Can't verify yet, currently workstations are all pushed down the newest Citrix client 6.31.1051. I have not been able to re-create the issue from a published desktop on the servers, not sure if it is b/c it is a MetaFrame server or b/c it has the original client .963. Regards, Jason Regards Jason Weems Sr. Network Systems Engineer Systems Engineering Group Citigroup Real Estate Lending and Technology Group 314-275-1142 jason.weems@xxxxxxxxxxxx *********************************************** This Weeks Sponsor: Wyse Technologies Get a free whitepaper on how to secure your corporate data from Wyse. Click Below. http://thethin.net/wyse.cfm *********************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm *********************************************** This Weeks Sponsor: Wyse Technologies Get a free whitepaper on how to secure your corporate data from Wyse. Click Below. http://thethin.net/wyse.cfm *********************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be subject to legal professional privilege. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you receive this e-mail by mistake please promptly inform us by reply e-mail and then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. You must not disclose or use in any way the information in the e-mail. There is no warranty that this email or any attachment or message is error or virus free. It may be a private communication, and if so, does not represent the views of Volante group Limited. *********************************************** This Weeks Sponsor: Wyse Technologies Get a free whitepaper on how to secure your corporate data from Wyse. Click Below. http://thethin.net/wyse.cfm *********************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm