I do everything via email for offline reading... Its not likely that I'd use it. Then again, I'm just one body. Sounds like something fun to play with to hone up those skills tho. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Kenzig http://thethin.net [mailto:jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 10:09 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Hypothetical questions for list re Web Availability of list messages Hi All, Okay so I am honing up my DB skills here. If I were to build a page on thethin.net that displayed a listing of say the last 25 or so messages posted to this list..which would get updated say at an interval of every 2 or so hours so people could read the messages online on thethin.net would that be beneficial to anyone and worth my time pursuing. I have a rudimentary page set up that lists the last 10 messages from the list so you could get an idea of what I am talking about. I can set it to do more messages but when you get over 50 or so it takes the page much longer to load. Have a look at the sample page.... http://thethin.net/search9002.cfm They are currently ordered newest to oldest message. What I could do then is set up the results page with a next and previous tag that would click you onto the next message so that you could read them in succession. I am not aiming to replace the messages archives at freelists I'm only trying to make it easier for people to get the last several messages posted to review quickly if they do not have access to email. The archives will still also be searchable at thethin.net. I guess the aim is to maybe get back some of the Yahoogroups functionality and not try and reinvent the wheel. Questions What is a reasonable update frequency for the messages to display? I have to schedule a script to pop3 download the messages and then a send script to index them into the database so it can't be too frequently. My guess would be no less than 30 minutes or it will detriment server use and no more than 3 hours or the information is unusable. I currently have it set to download every 2 hours and reindex. How many messages do you need to be able to view. For example the last 100, 50, 25? Would people be interested if I attempted to syndicate the list messages into an RSS feed? I am not quite sure how difficult this would be since it is dynamic data. If anyone out there is syndicating outputted data from a database let me know if you have any tips. Issues: -The archives has 3 mailing lists combined. The Thin List, the Windows 2000 List and the CitrixSE List. People might not be interested in one list or another. I haven't come up with a way yet to separate the messages out. -Make thethin.net even slower? More database requests on the server. Possible Future development: -Set up the results page with a next and previous tag that would click you onto the next message to read them in succession. -Write code to display the previous or next 10 or 25 messages from the list. -RSS Feed? Syndication? -Set up a new database for each list and separate them out. -Reply mail form at end of message to send a reply to a message. I have this functionality done but I have to consider the security risk of people sending spam with it and abusing it. Only members can send messages to the list, I am more concerned with people using it to send random messages elsewhere. I might be able to force the to line though.hmmm.so maybe I'll be OK with this. -Provide this functionality for other pertinent lists that do not have web access. Let me know if interested. -Get a whole lot faster server for thethin.net to do it. (cash or a super fast server donations accepted) : ) Please let me know your thoughts and ideas on this. You can send comments off list if you want to jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx Regards, Jim Kenzig http://thethin.net ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor: ThinPrint http://www.thinprint.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thethin.net/links.cfm For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor: ThinPrint http://www.thinprint.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thethin.net/links.cfm For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm