[THIN] Re: How crazy would it be....

  • From: "Braebaum, Neil" <Neil.Braebaum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:19:15 -0000

Sorry I didn't see it / must have missed it - can you repost, I'll see
if there's anything I can chip in.

Neil 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of BRUTON, Malcolm, FM
> Sent: 20 January 2006 09:18
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: How crazy would it be....
> 
> Correct.  Not my best explanation in the world.
> 
> Neil you don't have any clue about my XML question yesterday? 
> 
> Seems to be rather quiet on that front....
> 
> Malcolm
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Braebaum, Neil
> Sent: 20 January 2006 09:11
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: How crazy would it be....
> 
> 
> Using sid history doesn't mean a group / user in a new domain 
> has the same sid as one in a legacy domain.
> 
> It means the sid from the legacy domain is "tagged" onto the 
> object in AD.
> The new group / user, has a brand new sid in the new domain, 
> though, and a potential number of legacy SIDs tagged to the 
> object, that can be presented if required, to legacy domains.
> 
> Neil 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of BRUTON, Malcolm, FM
> > Sent: 20 January 2006 08:52
> > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: How crazy would it be....
> > 
> > You are talking about using SID history which is slightly 
> different.  
> > Using SID history mean that groups or users will have the 
> same SID in 
> > either domain.  Citrix uses the SID rather then the names 
> of groups as 
> > should most apps.  If you are simply moving apps or servers 
> form one 
> > domain to another without using SID history, then the same 
> group name 
> > in each domain will have a different SID, and you will have to 
> > repermission any resources so they use the new SID.
> > Malcolm
> > 
> >     -----Original Message-----
> >     From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kwaj Dude
> >     Sent: 19 January 2006 21:19
> >     To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >     Subject: [THIN] Re: How crazy would it be....
> >     
> >     
> >     What we recently ran into is groups were migrated from 
> one domain to 
> > another keeping the SID. Worked great for access to shares/folders 
> > based on group membership, totally didn't work with published apps 
> > access based on group membership. Perhaps it does track SIDs, but 
> > based on the behavior that we observed it certainly didn't fly with 
> > migrating across domains.
> >     
> >     
> >     On 1/18/06, BRUTON, Malcolm, FM
> > <Malcolm.BRUTON@xxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> > 
> >             I'm not sure that statement is right.
> >                             If you rename a group in AD it
> > will update it to the new name in the CMC on published apps.  
> > Therefore it must be using the SID.  Best way is to test it.... 
> >                             You can have a farm in multiple
> > domains at once.  You obviously just need to be careful with 
> > permissioning the right resources from each domain.
> >                             I have seen issues with RM that
> > is split between domains (an NT4 domain and an AD domain) where not 
> > everything works.  Such as, you lose the ability to run 
> some reports 
> > in the CMC based on group membership and you must run it only 
> > individual user accounts instead.
> >                             Hope this helps
> >                             Malcolm
> > 
> >                     -----Original Message-----  
> >                     From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kwaj Dude
> >                     Sent: 18 January 2006 02:05
> >                     To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >                     Subject: [THIN] Re: How crazy would it be.... 
> >                     
> >                     
> >                     As far as published apps go, Citrix 
> only looks at account 
> > names/group names - SIDs mean nothing.
> > As long as the domain and te usernames remain the same it 
> shouldn't be 
> > an issue.
> >                     
> >                     
> >                     On 1/18/06, Jen hen <jen.work@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> >                             to migrate a complete citrix
> > farm to a new AD forest?  There will be trusts between 
> forests.  The 
> > farm is not yet productional, so it can take a few hick-ups.
> >                              
> >                              
> >                              Currently all the
> > infrastructure pieces are 4.0 but the PS servers are 3.0 with SP 
> > 2005.04.
> >                              
> >                             Thanks!
> >                             Jennifer Henske



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