Sounds like their full of it (or it could really be something) Tell me about the NT 4 performance thing. Did you change from Nt 4 and an older version of MF to all new stuff/ _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lambert, Ryan Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 3:58 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Harumph! How about this one? (Yep, third post in reply... I'm a whirlwind of thoughts.) Ron, Any idea why they would say the NT4 performance was wonderful in comparison to this? I've gone down to 256 w/800x600, and it doesn't seem any better. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Oglesby Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 4:24 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Harumph! How about this one? Depends on their config. Might be throttling you. But most likely they are choking on their end. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lambert, Ryan Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 3:29 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Harumph! How about this one? Hey folks. I've another strange issue that seems to have me stumped, albeit only over a WAN (ADSL) connection. Note that I do not see this on the LAN. When someone opens an image via RDP or ICA, you can see the image painting itself incredibly slow. While this is occurring, you can not click on any other part of the session (locked up, for all intensive purposes) until the picture has rendered fully. Now, this is the sick part: Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=249 Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=249 Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=249 Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=249 Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=249 Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=249 Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=249 Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=249 Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=249 Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time=634ms TTL=249 Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time=514ms TTL=249 Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time=506ms TTL=249 Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time=600ms TTL=249 Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time=861ms TTL=249 Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time=655ms TTL=249 Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time=450ms TTL=249 I bet you can guess when I'm downloading the image to my client, huh? Ping times are great, until this. This is on off hours, when no bandwidth is being used by people in-house, so I can't see saturation being an issue. The traceroute indicates the latency starts right AT their router, and nowhere in the upstream's backbone. Now, I'm pretty certain this problem isn't on my end, because I'm on a DS3 that's using hardly any of the load. ;p Likewise, clients from other sites are complaining about it. . So, eh?