thanks for the info.. The joys of IT... Its always changing..
From: Jeremy Saunders <jeremy.saunders@xxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Automating Citrix installations Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:02:25 +0800
Yeh...that's true I guess. It was short lived though...unlike good old DOS. The actual ADS framework will be moved to SMS, but the PXE process will be part of the enhancement to RIS. RIS will still be a pull process, and not push/multicast. This is what was explained to us. But...it's early days, so they may change their minds. The only issue is that you may need to spend money on SMS to continue to use the framework you've now got in place for the deployment of the next generation of OS's. This is not a big deal for many organisations, but I just wanted to add this info to the thread for Angela to consider.
You're right, it is a good piece of work, but knowing what I now know, I wouldn't recommend it at this point in time for someone in Angela's position who is just looking at starting to build an automated build process.
Cheers, Jeremy.
"Andrew Wood" <andrew.wood@gilw ood-cs.co.uk> To Sent by: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> thin-bounce@freel cc ists.org Subject [THIN] Re: Automating Citrix 28/03/2006 04:35 installations PM
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Jeremy,
Aye, hey ho - its IT - things move on. It was a nice bit of work from MS, I didn't expect it to remain outside of SMS for long. But my thoughts were that what is core ADS now will move to be RIS and that fancy ADS development would move to SMS. I'd be interested to know if thatâ??s going to be the case.
All the scripts are based around vbscript - couldn't see a major problem in porting them across to something else.
-----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeremy Saunders Sent: 28 March 2006 09:15 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Automating Citrix installations
Hi Andrew,
I'd love to have a read of that.
However, are you aware that ADS 1.1 is the final and last release? The ADS team has been disbanded. Most have joint the SMS team, whilst others are working on RIS. We spent a lot of time investigating and chatting to Microsoft to understand the best way forward before making committments (building scripts, documentation, etc) to use ADS. RIS is going to be made much more modular. Currently we use a good old boot disk/image using DOS to lay the foundations for the unattended build process. But this is no longer supported for Vista/Longhorn and Windows 2003 64bit. So we have more or less decided that the way forward for our automated build process is to use RIS with WinPE version 2.0. This will also be Vista/Longhorn and 64bit compliant. For us, the advantage is that most of our existing scripts will work under WinPE. And the ones that don't are easy to port. So the redevelopment phase is not huge.
Sorry to rain on your parade :(
Kind regards,
Jeremy Saunders Senior Technical Specialist
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"Andrew Wood" <andrew.wood@gilw ood-cs.co.uk> To Sent by: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> thin-bounce@freel cc ists.org Subject [THIN] Re: Automating Citrix 27/03/2006 09:06 installations PM
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Angela,
The team I'm working with has got a document/white paper that should be out soon that demonstrates using Microsoft's ADS service to deploy & manage a citrix server farm.
The process utilises the ADS functionality to allow admins to create a server build that can be deployed for zdcs/wi/silo servers. The w2k3+sp1 & MPS4 builds are all pretty much fully automated (some SSL relay components require an administrator to add a server cert). The build scripts that include a good deal of the tuning stuff that's in the public domain.
ADS is also utilised for application deployment & patch management. We've utilised ads rather than IM as at present I don't think you can script an IM process :(
Its not 2 hours tho' - its more like 50 mins. I can look at putting some extra sleep statements in if you like?
-----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Angela Smith Sent: 27 March 2006 11:47 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Automating Citrix installations
Hi
Im looking at designing a new Citrix Presentation Server 4 farm and wish to automate as much as possible. I was originally going to use Ghost but am now looking at the following:
- Scripting the OS (Windows 2003 R2) - unattend.txt or equivalent - Scripting Citrix Presentation Server 4 - Automate Installation Manager so it installs base applications on the new server - Server tweaks / customisations
Is this possible? I basically want a process where I can set and forget - come back 2 hours later to a server that is ready to go. Im aiming for total automation but I know its probably not possible. If I can automate the OS + Citrix then I'll be happy. Id like a process I can give to any technician and guarantee the same server config.
Are there any sites that assist with the scripting required to do this as I cant script very well... Does anyone have any intelligent scripts they are happy to share?
Any help appreciated
Thanks
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