M- Systrack 3.0 from Lakeside software (http://www.lakesidesoftware.com/ <http://www.lakesidesoftware.com/> ) will provide you with the Metaframe statistics you are looking for. Systrack is an extremely useful tool for gathering server and farm metrics and provides outstanding reporting capabilities far beyond what can be obtained from CRM. One very useful tool is the Black Box Data Recorder. This tool continually tracks tons of system and process metrics and provides you with the ability to replay server events as they happened. For example, you can watch a server's activity up to a point of failure and view precisely what was happening at the failure point. Also, Systrack provides change auditing and will track any changes to system config or software changes. It allows you to baseline a configuration and compare that configuration to all other servers in your farm. Check it out. You'll be impressed. Logcaster can't touch Systrack. You can contact Carrie Peiffer at Carrie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Carrie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> . She will be glad to setup an eval for you. Good luck, Robert Armstrong IT Manager Invesmart, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:53 AM To: Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Alternative to Resource Manager for XPa servers Hello there, Im looking at comparing upgrading to XPe from XPa or looking at third party software as an alternative for around 10 servers. I am looking at Rippletech logcaster at the moment and was wondering if anyone was actually using any other thirdparty software to do the same thing. Feedback would be appreciated. Regards This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient or authorized to receive this for the intended recipient, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by sending a reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation.