[texbirds] Re: The Tx-Ornithology forum
- From: Ronnie Kramer <ronniekramer1964@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Mark B Bartosik <MBB22222@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 17:47:23 -0500
Mark,
Do not mistake the lack of response to your BRPE posts as lack of
interest. I have little intelligent to reply to you so I did not. But I
found your information very interesting and would value seeing more.
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:23 PM, <MBB22222@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Brush, I will address a few of your posts especially one you mentioned me
> by name. With no particular reason I will start with this one and not being
> as productive with posts as you are it might take me a couple days to
> address the rest. Perhaps this is just unfortunate case but I tried one
> or two
> times to post there (TX-Ornithology forum) a few years ago and got no
> replies. Well, why wasting time for more? Other thing is that TOS might
> have
> Ornithological word in name but practically this is place made of
> birders and
> for birders (nothing wrong with that as long as one recognizes and accepts
> this structure). Some might not see a deference, I do. Perhaps I was a
> little confused when I found it first, signed and started to read posts
> but
> very quickly I learned about the true nature of it so I accepted it as is.
> In my case confusion was natural. Back in Europe I belonged to a couple of
> zoological societies and the rules were quite different (remember that on
> average counties there are much smaller than Texas and some you might see
> like a counties here). There to became a society member (not club or
> association, <birders club, etc> ) you had to write a petition also
> signed by two
> existing members who knew and recognized you and your work; you could not
> just walk in from the street or like now sign on internet to became a
> member.
> Then you had to be accepted by the committee after verifying. Only then
> you could became a member and not only enjoy the benefits but also enjoy
> the
> company of people during meetings who truly shared your interests. It was
> normal and expected that the elite and all researchers working in this
> field
> were members as well. You gained access to very important contacts; great
> benefit just from that. Quantity never was an aim as it is here where
> more
> members means more dues are collected.
>
> Now let me give you one, recent example. I posted some information and
> photos of what can be a case of unfortunate release of individuals from
> Brown
> Pelican Pacific race into Atlantic race territory. This could, in my
> opinion, have drastic impact on the gene pool in our local population and
> might as
> well at least require some genetic research to clarify how much damage was
> done and what is a status of this subspecies now. I had nobody from
> ornithological part replied and share their opinion (BTW I was counted on
> your,Brush F., opinion to be posted) From that time I collected some more
> very
> interesting evidence but I see no reason to make more posts because of
> lack
> of interest. Not being an expert in this subject I will just keep
> collecting more data so perhaps in the future it might be useful. I could
> give you
> more examples but I do not think it would serve any purpose.
>
> Again Texbirds is what it is. Place to enjoy birds no matter of level of
> expertise and elitist status that, btw, have to be earned not imagined,
> IMHO. Now, at the end, it is a place to address another small issue
> discussed
> recently. As all posts about Texas birds are allowed here there is no
> reason trying to put somebodys yard cardinal on prohibited list. As
> already
> mentioned we could easy manage which post we read and which we are not.
> This
> size club (Texas size) with members of so broad interests will always lead
> to form many small subgroups that will try to criticize each other and
> use
> personal feeling when qualifying other posts, or posters. One could think
> that dividing Texbirds community into a few subgroups could help (e.g.
> TX-Ornithology) but I think this will not work in real life. Do not
> understand
> me wrong I would love to see it works; but unswerving test post by a few
> did not convinced me yet.
>
> And Brush, you should keep stirring the pond, one never knows what good can
> come from it. Admire your energy.
>
> Mark B Bartosik
> Houston, Texas
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