I think that the 2 "younger" plovers are either summering birds or birds that summered to the north and are going back south. Last year in July I had a large group of black-bellied plover that came in from somewhere and landed in a kelp patch ahead of me on Follett's Island maybe a couple of weeks earlier in the summer. They were in a plumage that I did not recognize and I even had to work to say that they were not mountain plovers. But the bill said black-belly and they eventually flew to a pool beside the highway showing the black wingpits. I finally decided that they were molting into non-breeding plumage from a non-breeding plumage (thus no black on the belly) but it is a plumage I never found again when I tried for pictures. Oddly, the group kept their necks very stretched and erect which accentuated the eyestripe adding to the odd look. There may have been some sun-bleach involved too but it is really to early for chicks to be flying anywhere. The books would say that it is failed breeders etc that are migrants now. Young of the year would be maybe as much as 6 weeks later than our early birds. My early young are often at the shell mounds at Smith Point when there are some broad-winged hawks in the air. On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:49 PM, <Stenmead@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Thank you John, Ron and Brush! > I now understand the biologically correct meaning of "chick". > I DID mean a juvenile that looks like it hatched this year, not a > non-flying dependent "chick". -- Joseph C. Kennedy on Buffalo Bayou in West Houston Josephkennedy36@xxxxxxxxx Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner