Personally, I appreciate the lists from a given site that includes the common birds, because while they're common "up there", they're still birds we don't get in the Valley, and I often use these posts to determine where to go on vacation just to get some new year birds! True, you can go almost anywhere in east Texas to get a Blue Jay (one of my favorites, I admit), but the local lists may make one state park/birding hot spot more "tempting" than another when vacation time rolls around! Keep on posting, guys! MB Mary Beth Stowe McAllen, TX _www.miriameaglemon.com_ (http://www.miriameaglemon.com/) In a message dated 3/31/2013 12:23:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, sngcanary@xxxxxxxxx writes: I have been debating all morning on whether I should reply to this email. I am the "adamant" *one*. (What was with the astericks?) I do not believe there is value in posting House Sparrows and Blue Jays, which was in the original email from Z. There are a lot of people on Texbirds. If we all did this it would be very difficult to glean any value. The quote from me below was in response to several questions about the record keeper for Texbirds. I was trying to explain that Texbirds is not for records. I suggested in my first response that it is always appropriate to post those to Ebird. There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking questions on Texbirds. We all can gain knowledge. There is nothing wrong with discussing bird behavior; despite implications from a recent email, people like me, who call themselves birders or listers, do enjoy observing birds and their habits, and learning more about them. There are very, very few "professionals" on Texbirds. If you mean ornithologists, I wish we had more. If you mean bird guides, the good ones are too busy to post very often. I have heard from several long time birders, people with immense knowledge, that they have quit reading Texbirds. They are weary of being called "elitist." They are tired of endless lists of common birds. I badly miss their input. I am considering joining their ranks. Sheridan Coffey San Antonio, Tx http://sngcanary1.blogspot.com/ www.flickr.com/sngcanary ________________________________ From: mtwoman <mtwoman@xxxxxxxxx> To: z-Texbirds <texbirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 8:45 AM Subject: [texbirds] Re: My "Backyard sightings" post to Texbirds I received 10 personal emails and the couple of responses here, and all but one stated that "backyard sightings" posts are helpful and ok. The *one* was fairly adamant that "backyard sighting" postings are not helpful, and are clutter, and that they do not belong on Texbirds, but on a different list. Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner