Thanks for the responses and correction ... after I posted I did some more research and became alerted that some Orange Crowns have a gray head and are sometimes confused with both Mourning and MacGillivray's. This was the first Orange Crown I have seen which had a gray head. Thanks again ray porter highlands texas Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner