Found,f470,r470,q306 still no go.After checking with scope found rr444 .39 0hm up in value 2 meg.This second time in one month set came in with same parts gone,last time Toshiba told tech to change anode leads,an coat with silicone which he did.this time they gave it to me.All is working well for now,Checked current draw reg b+ solder driver transformer checked tube,S an sockets for signs of arching,all seems well.I just have a feeling it is spitting back through one of the tube,s,like the sony,s couple years ago.Oh well if she comes back again I will try the isolation trick and hope it will show up bad tube.Thank you guy,s for your help,I am A stubborn old coute hate typing(as you can tell)but always,s open for suggestions an advice. Happy halloween to all the golbins out there Don73 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This Email List is accessible to the general public through search engines. Remove: http://www.tech-assist.org/remove.htm Set Vacation mailto:ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=set%20techassist%20vacation Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/