I have a Panasonic Ht441 that has F61 code display once powered up and then it powers off. Both cooling fans turn when powered up, no other obvious signs nothing charred or burned. I do not have service manual, just operators manual. Mike Griffin M Electronics ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Remove: Send a blank email to techassist-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with remove as subject. Set Vacation mailto:ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=set%20techassist%20vacation Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/