[TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma
- From: "fremur01@xxxxxxxxx" <fremur01@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 15:55:42 -0700 (PDT)
Hi gang,
I recently repaired a DELL 17" LCD Monitor and ran
into a roadblock. I called DELL to purchase parts to
no avail. They and other Mfrs would rather you either
buy new equipment or let one of their high priced
regional reps do the work.
Anyhow, I ended up repairing the power module myself.
If I recall correctly HP deems all monitors as
Non-Repairable Units outside of warranty.
That's my 2 cents worth...
Thanks,
Fred
MTS Electronics
Fayetteville, NC
fremur01@xxxxxxxxx
Other manufacturers are doing about the same thing,
lots of new products are exchange only, no parts
available, no service manuals available and
once the product is out of warranty the price to
exchange it is more than a new replacement unit. I'm
sure there are laws against some of this, unfair trade
practices, price fixing, etc. but I'm too far over
the hill to really give a damn. Maybe some
organization like NESDA should be looking into it.
Maybe they are, does anyone know?
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Since 1972
Jim Myers
Telrad Electronics
Fort Wayne, Indiana
Ed Gaidies wrote:
> Whole new Rip-Off.
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> -Ed-
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> Tel-Tek Electronics
> Ontario-Canada
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:08 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution!
Re: Gateway Plasma
> GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
>
>
>
>>Is that all? Only a grand? I figured it would be
more when they wanted $300 just to reload windows.
(you need their "secret code" to unlock the cmos and
it must be so classified that they can't tell you over
the phone, by email, or snail-mail)
>>Doug Keller
>>Wis-Kel Electronics
>>101 Freeland Ave.
>>Terra Alta, WV
>>USA 26764
>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>http://www.tech-assist.org
>>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
>>won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
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>>
>>Jim Myers wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Gateway refuses to sell parts even with pressure
from the customer.
>>>Return set to customer, Gateway will send someone
to fix it for a cool
>>>$1000.00.
>>
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>>>Since 1972
>>>Jim Myers
>>>Telrad Electronics
>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>
>>>
>>>Jim Myers wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>The voltage goes to zero with the sensor removed.
There is no pullup
>>>>resistor so I'm pretty sure the IC is the problem.
I'll try Zenith next
>>>>week, maybe the have a similar model.
>>
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>>>>Since 1972
>>>>Jim Myers
>>>>Telrad Electronics
>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>greentron@xxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Do you measure a low resistance to ground on the
sensor output lead?
>>>>>Does the voltage on that lead go up to 5 (or
maybe 3) volts with the
>>>>>sensor removed? Is there a pull-up resistor?
>>>>>J Silverman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Tried a different IR sensor, no help, still just
three tenths of a
>>>>>>volt on the output pin and ity-bitty pulses from
the remote. I traced
>>>>>>the IR path to IC U4 which is an 80 pin surface
mount square
>>>>>>flatpack, goes to pin 80. Number on U4 is
6413079F18 and it is on the
>>>>>>board with 2 15 pin VGA, 1 9 pin serial and a
flat panel monitor
>>>>>>connector. Any information on where to get the
ic or the board?
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>
>>>>>************************************************************************
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>>>>>>Since 1972
>>>>>>Jim Myers
>>>>>>Telrad Electronics
>>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Scott Beebe wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hello Jim,
>>>>>>>If you take out the IR sensor, then that would
rule out the
>>>>>>>receiver. But it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>sounds like a micro problem to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanx,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Scott Beebe
>>>>>>>Ohm Electronics Inc.
>>>>>>>609 W. Clinton St.
>>>>>>>Ithaca NY 14850
>>>>>>>Voice: (607) 273-8406
>>>>>>>Fax: (607) 273-8743
>>>>>>>WWW.OhmElectronicsInc.com
>>>>>>>mailto:Scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wednesday, March 31, 2004, 3:57:48 PM, you
wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jim> Are technical questions still allowed?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jim> This Gateway GTW-P42M102 has a sticker on
the inside that says
>>>>>>>it is a
>>>>>>>Jim> LG model PDP42WVSN3. The owner says a
worker at the office
>>>>>>>caused a
>>>>>>>Jim> static spark when she reached for the
buttons on the front, now
>>>>>>>it has
>>>>>>>Jim> the menu displayed over the picture all
the time with the
>>>>>>>cursor bar
>>>>>>>Jim> scrolling up over and over. Also the
remote no longer works.
>>>>>>>The wire
>>>>>>>Jim> from the remote receiver at the connector
has three tenths of a
>>>>>>>volt and
>>>>>>>Jim> very low amplitude pulses when the remote
is activated. The end
>>>>>>>wire on
>>>>>>>Jim> this 6 pin connector has 5 volts. Sounds
like the micro or the
>
> IR
>
>>>>>>>Jim> receiver got zapped but if anyone has
service manual or
>>>>>>>information on
>>>>>>>Jim> this a little help would be nice.
>>>>>>>Jim> Thanks,
>>>>>>>Jim>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jim> Since 1972
>>>>>>>Jim> Jim Myers
>>>>>>>Jim> Telrad Electronics
>>>>>>>Jim> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jim>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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