That may be possible but the feedback voltage would be critical. I think a much safer way was posted last week. It said to apply a variable voltage to whichever source line supplied the feedback (with no power applied) and monitor the primary side of the opto-isolator with an ohm meter. As the external supply approachs the rated voltage you should see a dramatic change in the resistance reading. John. John Mielke Main TV 636 main St. Longmont, Co phone 303 776 6955 fax 303 776 0792 maintv2004@xxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Barnak" <cbarnak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:23 AM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sylvania(Funai) WSSC192 combo..33v zener shorts > Jerry, > > Have you (or anyone out there) tried controlling the switching of the > SMPS Regulator > by injecting voltage or varying resistance on the primary side of the > Opto- Isolator ?? > I've been successful in using your method. Also using a variac on the > A.C., but some > SMPS will just cut full-on even with very low A.C. input. Seems to me > the Opto could be > removed and a Pot and/or power supply across the opto primary points > could be use to regulate the supply so you > could troubleshoot the feedback path and find out why the thing won't > regulate. > > > > Christopher Barnak, CET > Norfolk Public Schools > School Plant Facilities > 966 Bellmore Ave. > Norfolk, Va. 23504 > > Phone 757 628 3385 > Fax 757 628 3392 > cbarnak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >>> greentron@xxxxxxx 9/25/2004 1:58:26 AM >>> > The zener is an overvoltage protector. The SMPS is not regulating so > the > output voltage is going too high and the zener is just doing its job. > Usually a tough one like this turns out to be a resistor, diode, > transistor, or some other part that is not easily tested in circuit. > Sometimes I have to figure out if the feedback problem is in the > primary or > secondary. The easiest way to do this is with an adjustable bench DC > supply > and an ohm meter. I hook the ohm meter across the optoisolator on the > primary side and apply an adjustable DC voltage to the secondary DC > output > line that operates the feedback. When the DC voltage goes above the > point > where the output line is supposed to regulate, the ohm meter should > show > that the opto phototransistor is drawing some current. If it does > this, the > problem is with the primary feedback components. If it does not do > this, the > problem is in the secondary feedback components. > Jerry Silverman > Greentron Inc > 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609 > Fax/Phone 864 232 3889 > greentron@xxxxxxx > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary McCartney" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 1:21 AM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sylvania(Funai) WSSC192 combo..33v zener > shorts > > > > Jeff, what about something unusual such as leakage between primary > and > > secondary of the SMPS transformer? Does the 33V zener blow instantly > or > > is there enough time to do measurements? Is the 33V rectifier > > installed backwards by any chance? > > > > > > > > > > Gary McCartney > > > > McCartney Electronics > > Guelph Ontario Canada > > Est. 1984 > > email: gary (at) number63.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Intrepid Video Support wrote: > > > Thanks Peggs... > > > I checked continuity on all the traces and pulled back the > coating..all > is fine in that area. > > > Jeff > > > -- > > > Intrepid Video TV/VCR Repair > > > 263 S Front St, Steelton PA 17113 > > > 717-939-7708; (F) 717-564-4952 > > > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "peggs" <peggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Techassist" > <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 11:36 AM > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sylvania(Funai) WSSC192 combo..33v zener > shorts > > > > > > > > > If there is a mounting screw near the opto,check the pcb for a > crack at > the > > > screw. > > > capstan motor are bad in many of these as well,it pulls the 12v > supply > down > > > > > > Peggs > > > > > > At 06:27 PM 9/21/04, Intrepid Video Support wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>Set came in dead, with a squeal. > > >>Replaced D615(33v), Q605, Q606(Shorted) R566, high in value, D629 > > >>(1N4148..shorted) and I replaced the > > >>opto..all diodes and transistors shorted again. > > >>I replaced again, this time replacing Q604..33v zener shorted > again. > > >>I checked D621, D609, D616, 617, 613, the 10 ohm resistor R654. > > >>Evidently I'm missing something..and losing on a job that should > have > been > > >>a quick fix.. > > >>Can anyone offer any help? > > >>Thanks. > > >>Jeff > > >>-- > > >>Intrepid Video TV/VCR Repair > > >>263 S Front St, Steelton PA 17113 > > >>717-939-7708; (F) 717-564-4952 > > >>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > >> > > > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > >>Lost Password: > > >>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > >>Email Archives: > > >>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > Lost Password: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > Email Archives: > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > Lost Password: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > Email Archives: > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > Lost Password: > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > Email Archives: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". 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