As ststed above, this had a bad vertical IC because the low ohms resistor that is in the source from fly is discolored, tho not open. can't tell if it's a 4.7,.47, etc ohm. Location R661. Thanks, Phil Bader -- Philip Bader Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976) 3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880 Fax (863) 299-8821 email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/