The vertical height needs adjusting. I get in the service mode with the 0-6-2-5-9-6 proceedure and adjust the vertical. To get out of the service mode I think you usually just turn off the tv and turn it back on. When I turn it on again the vertical goes back to the wrong adjustment. I have tried to unplug it, turn it off with the remote, and off by the front panel. The service information in Force in the adjustments area doesn't say how to get in much less how to save and get out. It just says look at chapter 5...where ever that is since the info isn't setup into chapters. I have looked everywhere and don't find any info on it. I may have a bad eeprom but I haven't had anything like this before. Any ideas appreciated thanks Jason Moutons Electronics ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This Email List is accessible to the general public through search engines. Remove: http://www.tech-assist.org/remove.htm Set Vacation mailto:ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=set%20techassist%20vacation Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/