I am very fortunate to be on medicare and also retired from the USAF. The only charges I have is $3.00 per prescription for generic amd $9.00 for name brand medicine. As far as estimates go I live in a town of about 7,000 and know most of them. If I gave an estimate of over $50.00 I just would probably not get that repair. You all stay healthy. Sender: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx From: woodman1@xxxxxxxx(Bob@Bobs=A0tv) Date: Tue, Apr 20, 2004, 3:15pm (CDT+1) To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Estimate charges - was 19" portables Reply=A0to: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx No Al, $10./$35. co-pay for meds and $10. co-pay for Dr visits.. This past April it went from $750. a month to $1075. a month for my wife and I, Also have to pay 3 months in advance.. Who knows what next April will bring.. The system sucks.. Maybe we can all go move in with Ed, in Canada... and I'll even bring his print back...(:-) Bob, Bobs TV =A0 Worcester, ma woodman1@xxxxxxxx Main 508-853-1482 Fax =A0 508-853-1480 --- Al L <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Bob is very fortunate he can still pay that price.I have no insurance! =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Bob, for that outrageous price,does it pay "everything"? God help us. al Al Leatherman 224 RT. 46 Mine Hill, NJ 07803 973-361-5796 WWW.ALS-TV.NET ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob@Bobs tv" <woodman1@xxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:15 AM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Estimate charges - was 19" portables Don, =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0How would you like to pay $1075.00 per month for two people? I would gladly pay $140.00 deductable.. Bob, Bobs TV =A0 Worcester, ma woodman1@xxxxxxxx Main 508-853-1482 Fax =A0 508-853-1480 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Hartigan" <hartstv@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:40 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Estimate charges - was 19" portables Not totally,140.00 deductable & they cover 80% of your bill............... Don of HARTS-TVCR''ASC'' 9 Robert St,Oromocto,NB,Can,E2V3N2 hartstv@xxxxxxxxxxx Tel-5063579785,fax-3576010 cel-4701719 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:57 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Estimate charges - was 19" portables Doug, remember that they have free health care. Wayne Vanaman Omega Electronics 6904 W Fairfield Dr Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310 Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com 850-456-5995 voice 850-458-6369 fax ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 4:02 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Estimate charges - was 19" portables 15% tax?? I thought the 6% that WV charges is borderline outrageous! Doug Keller Wis-Kel Electronics 101 Freeland Ave. Terra Alta, WV USA =A0 =A0 =A0 26764 dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.tech-assist.org "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you won't live long enough to make them all yourself" Don Hartigan wrote: I take my ''est'' fees'' off the parts side of my invoice,ie, total parts=3D50.00 less ''est fee''.It gives the customer a break on the parts cost.Then add the labor & 15% tax.Works fine for me & the customer............. Don of HARTS-TVCR''ASC'' 9 Robert St,Oromocto,NB,Can,E2V3N2 hartstv@xxxxxxxxxxx Tel-5063579785,fax-3576010 cel-4701719 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Jacobs" <jj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:48 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Estimate charges - was 19" portables Ok, you guys that charge for estimates - how do you handle the logistics? Do you give them an invoice? Do they pay sales tax on it? I've been trying to figure out a good way to charge for an estimate. Maybe give them a 'coupon' worth $25 off the repair of that specific item when you take their money so you only give them one invoice when they pick it up.. Joel Jacobs Ohio Consumer Electronics Pickerington, Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 2:14 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 19 inch portables I still get 13" TVCRs, 13 and 19-20 " TVs. I manage to get 60-100.00 range. if you guys stuck to your guns and collected a diagnisis fee up front, you would nail most all those repairs with few turn downs. A 13-20" TV in the door: $25.00 up front diagnostic fee (applied to their OKd repair). A 25-32" set: $39.00 fee up front. A 13-27" TVCR combi: $39.00 fee. VCR $25.00 fee. Typical VCR repair: (maintanence,timing,etc) $49.00 - 25.00 dep. Bal due: 24.00. That customer will go 24.00 tp not lose the VCR and 25.00. They "see" the bal due, folks. Not deceptive, just covering our expenses. A 27" TV typical bill: =A0 79.00 labor+ 49.00 parts=3D 128.00 +(6.5% tax) 8.32=3D $136.32 total. Less 39.00 deposit: 97.32 due. The customer cannot buy a NICE DEPENDABLE WELL BUILT 27" TV for less than a hundred bucks. =A0I've added up all my month's small 25.00 fees on the "turn downs" and they easily paid ,say, my phone bill, or electric,etc in a month. I hear a lot of sad stories out there about cheapo sets driving down the business. Be an honest salesman! Explain truthfully what you know as gospel: Theat customers older set that had a good picture before it went down, and only one failure in the ten years is worth TRYING to save, if possible. The result is a sturdy piece of equipement that will survive until he decides to get an HDTV AFTER the prices drop to more reasonable amount. Just EXPLAIN for five minutes and they usually will see the lifgt. There's always the guy who thinks c**p is just as good as quality items,just less money, no matter what, but that's not a general view. I say, "there's a 5.00 plastic Walmart hand bag, and there's a leather 75.00 hand bag. Both bags that hold the same stuff, but that's where the similarity ends... Paint a word picture! Oh, God, there I go again. Sorry, guys. My 2 cents... BTW I seem to stay swamped with 10-15 yr old sets, many are 20-25". AND FEW RETURNS!. (I'm thorough in shop) Not rich by any means... But busy, and have a few $$$. Phil Bader becyn wrote: yep, thats about it. At least you can save the money that you might spend on a gym. ;-) Jim McVey McVey Alltronix 327 Broadway Newburgh Ny 12550 ph: 845 561 8383 fx: 845 561 9017 Consumer electronics & computer service. Factory authorized for over twenty brands. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:46 PM Subject: [TechAssist] 19 inch portables Hello, =A0Just wondering if this applies to most. I used to get a lot of 19 inch televisions in for repair monthly. Now I rarely get one a month. Still get 25 inch and up but anything smaller seems to be a thing of the past in this area. I guess I will have to lift weights and get in shape for the bigger units and stay where the money is for now. Jay-Jay's TV Clarksburg, WV ---------------------------------------------- --- Walter Wood Future Tech Home Center 2786 Hwy. 43 N. 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