[TechAssist] CDN Update !Re: Estimate charges - was 19" portables
- From: "Keith Trumbla" <keith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:37:34 -0500
ONE VERY IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT OUR 15% TAX. Both the USA and
CANADA have a manufacturers tax or Federal Sales tax. Before 1990 our "FST"
was hidden because it was paid at Manufacturer level, the final retail
customer never saw it, it was already buried in the final price. In 1990,
the CDN gov't decided to remove the tax at the Manuf level and add it at
point of sale. Most of the public was aghast at the "NEW" tax. They forgot
two very important points: The tax was always there before, and it was
anywhere from 12%-14% (double), not 7% as it is now. The old FST is now
called the GST (Goods and Services Tax). All provinces set their own PST
(Provincial sales tax) I think Ontario's is 8% , add the 7% GST (Same coast
to coast) and you get a seemingly whopping 15%. You have to know where it is
being sent to to make a fair assessment.
Keith Trumbla
www.bemelectronics.com
Suite 212-530 Century St.
Winnipeg Canada R3H 0Y4
Ph.204.775.2875
Fax.204-774-9192
----- Original Message -----
From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 11:20 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Estimate charges - was 19" portables
> My Canadian buddy from Three Rivers and his wife spend the winter in
> Kissamee Florida. Also Myrtle Beach SC becomes a Canadian golf colony in
the
> winter.
> Jerry Silverman
> Greentron Inc
> 4 Newland Ave
> Greenville SC 29609
> 864 232 3889
> Fax 271 2080
> mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Al L" <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:04 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Estimate charges - was 19" portables
>
>
> > But Wayne, we would also be collecting 25% on our repair bills!The low
> > income Canadians seem to be better off than we are!How about it Gary and
> > Ed,is it better than our system?I don't see Canadians sneaking across
the
> > border to work here,or are they so good at it i didn't notice? lol al
> >
> > Al Leatherman
> > 224 RT. 46
> > Mine Hill, NJ 07803
> > 973-361-5796
> > WWW.ALS-TV.NET
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:48 AM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Estimate charges - was 19" portables
> >
> >
> > > If I tried to get by on 25% less than I have now I would be living on
> the
> > > street with the other scum.
> > >
> > > As sad as it is, you can get by without medical care. Millions of
> people
> > > are doing it right now, and millions more have done so thruoughout
> > history.
> > > Is it good? No, but it is possible. Look at your books and honestly
> > > reconsider wether you could survive if 25% of what you spend was gone.
> > >
> > > Wayne Vanaman
> > > Omega Electronics
> > > 6904 W Fairfield Dr
> > > Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310
> > >
> > > Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
> > >
> > > 850-456-5995 voice
> > > 850-458-6369 fax
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 8:47 PM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Estimate charges - was 19" portables
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'd be willing and gladly pay 25% sales tax for
> > > > free health care!!!!!
> > > > I had major medical insurance until about a month
> > > > ago, when we were forced off C.O.B.R.A., and now
> > > > can't get health insurance at any price!!!
> > > > Walter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Doug Keller <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > Yeah, that's true.
> > > > >
> > > > > Doug Keller
> > > > > Wis-Kel Electronics
> > > > > 101 Freeland Ave.
> > > > > Terra Alta, WV
> > > > > USA 26764
> > > > > dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org
> > > > > "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
> > > > > won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Wayne Vanaman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Doug, remember that they have free health care.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Wayne Vanaman
> > > > > >Omega Electronics
> > > > > >6904 W Fairfield Dr
> > > > > >Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >850-456-5995 voice
> > > > > >850-458-6369 fax
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >>From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >>Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 4:02 PM
> > > > > >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Estimate charges -
> > > > > was 19" portables
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>15% tax?? I thought the 6% that WV charges is
> > > > > borderline outrageous!
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>Doug Keller
> > > > > >>>Wis-Kel Electronics
> > > > > >>>101 Freeland Ave.
> > > > > >>>Terra Alta, WV
> > > > > >>>USA 26764
> > > > > >>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >>>http://www.tech-assist.org
> > > > > >>>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because
> > > > > you
> > > > > >>>won't live long enough to make them all
> > > > > yourself"
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>Don Hartigan wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>I take my ''est'' fees'' off the parts side
> > > > > of my invoice,ie, total
> > > > > >>>>parts=50.00 less ''est fee''.It gives the
> > > > > customer a break on the parts
> > > > > >>>>cost.Then add the labor & 15% tax.Works fine
> > > > > for me & the
> > > > > >>>>customer.............
> > > > > >>>>Don of HARTS-TVCR''ASC''
> > > > > >>>>9 Robert St,Oromocto,NB,Can,E2V3N2
> > > > > >>>>hartstv@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >>>>Tel-5063579785,fax-3576010
> > > > > >>>>cel-4701719
> > > > > >>>>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >>>>From: "Joel Jacobs" <jj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >>>>Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:48 PM
> > > > > >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Estimate charges - was
> > > > > 19" portables
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>>Ok, you guys that charge for estimates - how
> > > > > do you handle the
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>logistics?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>>>Do you give them an invoice? Do they pay
> > > > > sales tax on it? I've been
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>trying
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>>to figure out a good way to charge for an
> > > > > estimate. Maybe give them a
> > > > > >>>>>'coupon' worth $25 off the repair of that
> > > > > specific item when you take
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>their
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>>money so you only give them one invoice when
> > > > > they pick it up..
> > > > > >>>>>Joel Jacobs
> > > > > >>>>>Ohio Consumer Electronics
> > > > > >>>>>Pickerington, Ohio
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >>>>>From: "Phil Bader"
> > > > > <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >>>>>Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 2:14 PM
> > > > > >>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 19 inch portables
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>I still get 13" TVCRs, 13 and 19-20 " TVs.
> > > > > I manage to get 60-100.00
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>range.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>if you guys stuck to your guns and
> > > > > collected a diagnisis fee up
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >front,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>>>>you would nail most all those repairs with
> > > > > few turn downs.
> > > > > >>>>>>A 13-20" TV in the door: $25.00 up front
> > > > > diagnostic fee (applied to
> > > > > >>>>>>their OKd repair).
> > > > > >>>>>>A 25-32" set: $39.00 fee up front.
> > > > > >>>>>>A 13-27" TVCR combi: $39.00 fee.
> > > > > >>>>>>VCR $25.00 fee.
> > > > > >>>>>>Typical VCR repair:
> > > > > (maintanence,timing,etc) $49.00 - 25.00 dep. Bal
> > > > > >>>>>>due: 24.00. That customer will go 24.00 tp
> > > > > not lose the VCR and
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >25.00.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>>>>They "see" the bal due, folks. Not
> > > > > deceptive, just covering our
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>expenses.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>A 27" TV typical bill: 79.00 labor+ 49.00
> > > > > parts= 128.00 +(6.5% tax)
> > > > > >>>>>>8.32= $136.32 total. Less 39.00 deposit:
> > > > > 97.32 due.
> > > > > >>>>>>The customer cannot buy a NICE DEPENDABLE
> > > > > WELL BUILT 27" TV for less
> > > > > >>>>>>than a hundred bucks.
> > > > > >>>>>>I've added up all my month's small 25.00
> > > > > fees on the "turn downs"
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >and
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>>>>they easily paid ,say, my phone bill, or
> > > > > electric,etc in a month.
> > > > > >>>>>>I hear a lot of sad stories out there about
> > > > > cheapo sets driving down
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>the
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>>>>business. Be an honest salesman! Explain
> > > > > truthfully what you know as
> > > > > >>>>>>gospel: Theat customers older set that had
> > > > > a good picture before it
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>went
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>>>>down, and only one failure in the ten years
> > > > > is worth TRYING to save,
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >if
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>>>>possible. The result is a sturdy piece of
> > > > > equipement that will
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >survive
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>>>>until he decides to get an HDTV AFTER the
> > > > > prices drop to more
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>reasonable
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>>>>amount.
> > > > > >>>>>>Just EXPLAIN for five minutes and they
> > > > > usually will see the lifgt.
> > > > > >>>>>>There's always the guy who thinks c**p is
> > > > > just as good as quality
> > > > > >>>>>>items,just less money, no matter what, but
> > > > > that's not a general
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >view.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>I
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>>>>say, "there's a 5.00 plastic Walmart hand
> > > > > bag, and there's a leather
> > > > > >>>>>>75.00 hand bag. Both bags that hold the
> > > > > same stuff, but that's where
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>the
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>>>>similarity ends... Paint a word picture!
> > > > > >>>>>>Oh, God, there I go again. Sorry, guys.
> > > > > >>>>>>My 2 cents...
> > > > > >>>>>>BTW I seem to stay swamped with 10-15 yr
> > > > > old sets, many are 20-25".
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >AND
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>>>>FEW RETURNS!. (I'm thorough in shop)
> > > > > >>>>>>Not rich by any means... But busy, and have
> > > > > a few $$$.
> > > > > >>>>>>Phil Bader
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>becyn wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>yep, thats about it. At least you can save
> > > > > the money that you might
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>spend
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>>on
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>a gym. ;-)
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>Jim McVey
> > > > > >>>>>>>McVey Alltronix
> > > > > >>>>>>>327 Broadway
> > > > > >>>>>>>Newburgh Ny 12550
> > > > > >>>>>>>ph: 845 561 8383
> > > > > >>>>>>>fx: 845 561 9017
> > > > > >>>>>>>Consumer electronics &
> > > > > >>>>>>>computer service.
> > > > > >>>>>>>Factory authorized for
> > > > > >>>>>>>over twenty brands.
> > > > > >>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >>>>>>>From: "Jay" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:46 PM
> > > > > >>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] 19 inch portables
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>Hello,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>Just wondering if this applies to most. I
> > > > > used to get a lot of 19
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>inch
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>televisions in for repair monthly. Now I
> > > > > rarely get one a month.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>Still
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>get 25 inch and up but anything smaller
> > > > > seems to be a thing of the
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>past
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>in this area. I guess I will have to lift
> > > > > weights and get in shape
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>for
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>the bigger units and stay where the money
> > > > > is for now.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>Jay-Jay's TV
> > > > > >>>>>>>>Clarksburg, WV
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
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