[tccrockets] Re: Nike Smoke - for real
- From: James Dougherty <jafrado@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: TCC chat <tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 20:17:59 -0700
Or something like this completely unregulated so that it is smoke gone wild
...
http://www.thatsgoodfog.com/products/machines/tiny-fx/
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Rob Diehl <rwdiehl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Burn a delay/smoke grain
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 26, 2014, at 4:12 PM, James Dougherty <jafrado@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Thanks David,
>
> That's right, Titanium Tetracholoride ... thats all in the original Nike
> smoke files!
> Anyhow, probably nasty stuff! I'd toss my rocket after that... I've also
> seen Fog makers
> which use Glycerine mixtures ... that might work, but too heavy ..
>
> I have a high pressure pump, an actuator mechanism for BOS, and I can put
> a decent jet out with water...
>
> I'd like to have a thick cloud like a real atmospheric sounding rocket :-)
>
> -James
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 4:02 PM, David Weinshenker <daze39@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> James Dougherty wrote:
>> > Hi Folks,
>> >
>> > Speaking of Nike smoke ...
>> >
>> > I found a nice compressor/pump and a way to turn on a motor at Motor
>> > Burn out sense, to make a "real" Nike Smoke
>> > i only need some Hydrochloric acid ... I was wondering if there are any
>> > chemists out there who know what would be
>> > a good "smoke" solution I could jet from my nosecone which doesn't
>> > involve nasty acids... could be really cool to have
>> > a sounding rocket make smoke in a safe and sane way ...
>>
>> I think the original "Nike-Smoke" used titanium tetrachloride
>> (a liquid which reacts with moisture in the air to form a white
>> "smoke" of titanium oxide) - the other reaction product is HCl
>> vapor, but that's no worse than the same substance present in
>> AP exhaust; you don't have to handle it as a liquid acid.
>>
>> I've heard of model rocket contest flyers packing a small balloon
>> of the stuff with the recovery gear, intended to burst at ejection
>> and make a visible puff for altitude tracking. (The original Nike-
>> Smoke, IIRC, used a ram-air tube to pressurize the supply of TiCl4
>> so that it dispensed continuously during the flight.)
>>
>> -dave w
>>
>>
>
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