Bleed the brakes: In this order; right rear, left rear, right front, left front. Use the method recommended in all the VW handbooks and you can do the job by yourself, though it is helpful to have someone work the pedal while you watch the fluid to make sure all bubbles have stopped coming out. If you don't have a manual showing this procedure holler back and I will describe it. Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } that is the concensus on the master cylinder. any tricks to bleeding it with it installed? just unhook the hose and pump away or what? --------------------------------- Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your "fix". Check it out.