Chuck: Maybe you should give Denis a torque wrench for Xmas. And throw in a list of torque settings for the VW bus. --- On Wed, 10/15/08, chuck blue <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: chuck blue <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: OK OK No engine move! To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 4:00 PM Yeah,That makes me think the loose pulley bolt didn't have anything to do with a loose wobbling pulley that got worn enough to rub on the engine tin.It had to have been the black hole effect ----- Original Message ----- From: Denis Dodson To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 9:06 AM Subject: [tcb] OK OK No engine move! Garsh, it was just a question. Coincidence. Collision, bent pulley. I guess it was that way before the accident. I am not usually listening to music with the things in my ear, I am listening to books. The last one was about astrophysics, quantum mechanics, dark matter and Black Holes and the one before was history of the Civil War. Since it is not music I can hear the world just fine. Generally, I don't wear the ear phones, while driving, I play then through the radio. So, There!