The po of my vert had "adjusted" the spring plates by taking the spring plates off and moving them down one spline and putting them back. The result was, when I put the engine in, it still sat at the top of the suspension. I'm not sure if someone on the list gave me these web sites, but I saved them for future reference. They pertain to a bay, but will give you a real good idea on how to adjust the rear torsion bars on any air cooled VW. http://www.type2.com/library/suspens/torsion.htm http://www.type2.com/library/suspens/tmadj.htm This From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Martin Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 6:27 PM To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: Murray is on his own tires I think the engine will drop it a bunch. Are they hard to adjust with the engine in? You can readjust when you install the brake cables. On Jan 12, 2007, at 5:24 PM, Denis wrote: Murray is sitting on his own tires now. I will have to re-adjust his re-adjusted springplates, he is sitting pretty high in the rear now, like in the old hot rod days. I may wait until after I put the engine back to see if it will settle it more. I have attached the bench yoke style engine stand to the lift and I can work on the engine at any height I want. If I die wealthy I will make sure that my estate leaves all of my friends a lift each. It makes car work sooooo easy.