Haha; as ever it just becomes more and more confusing. I'm just hoping my current phone remains in one piece for another year or so at least; see where we're at by then. Mustafa, hoping I didn't hijack your question into a direction you weren't intending. A From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: 30 July 2012 15:53 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Mobile technology and accessibility concerns. Amie, Technically off list, but, my considered view is that if you are wishing to not use a Nokia touch screen device, such as the Nokia E7, E6 etc. If you do not wish to go down that route, you need to pick Android from Google or iPhone from Apple. Personally, I'm far more in favour of the Apple iPhone route, the argument over application install is a poor one at best, what you are effectively being told is that its best to be allowed to install apps which maybe buggy, virus filled or worse, actually ones which hack your personal data and spread it to god know's who. Beyond this, Google have made no commitment to accessibility, the accessibility which is offered on Android is all over the place and is very much dependant on device and operating system you have at that tine, you are not always entitled to the upgrade etc. In the Apple camp, you have a firm well and truly dedicated to accessibility, its their accessibility you use, and it works, its considered when they upgrade / update and its there right out of the box, you need no sighted help whatsoever. I'm no fan boy per say, but, I know which I'd choose, and indeed did choose. On 30 Jul 2012, at 14:36, Amie Slavin <amie.slavin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I'm currently using Simbion with Talks and wondering, similarly, about where to go next once my current phone falls in half. I know almost nothing and hope others will join in, but it seems to me that Talks and Mobile Speak are both now well on the way to obsolete, with IPhone and Android finally taking VI access into the mainstream. I've also heard the theory that Android is looking the better of the two, being more flexible with its app's. Hope this isn't considered o-t for here; as a Talks user it's certainly of interest to me, but apologies if it isn't an acceptable thread for this list. Amie From: <mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks- <mailto:uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mostafa Al'mahdy Sent: 30 July 2012 13:33 To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@ <//freelists.org> freelists.org Subject: [talks-uk] Mobile technology and accessibility concerns. Hello. Over the years, we have been looking forward to a mobile platform that can be reutilized to make the blind people use the cell phone independently. Shortly after though, the symbian based was the first to adopt this notion. Talks and Moble Speak for symbian were indeed the top and the only two options to choose from. Afterwards, we began to see the HTC and windows moble based, Talks and Mobile Speak have had to move to cope with your demands there. In a little while, Apple's iPhone has became the fashion of the town. Although it consists some buggs according to its end users, but it was just neat for the most part. Now the question is: Will Apple's iPhone persistently cope with your demands? At presently, Apple's iPhone faces a major and uneasy contestant, who could be dare to miss Android!. Probably as you know, Android is a Linux based, and it is considered to be the most sophisticated operating system of the day. It is widely obtained and rapidly being evolved to such a significant degree. Will it ultimately substitute Apple's iPhone on the long term? I have an enormous prediction of Android topping the cellphone market. It is chiefly flexable. I' currently am a symbian based user, but apparently, I may eventually go for Android. Whether you are a blind or a sighted user, you may feel free to participate in this technological discussion. I look forward to hear from you. _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - <http://www.avg.com> www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5163 - Release Date: 07/29/12 _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5163 - Release Date: 07/29/12