[talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: Any more news...

  • From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:14:24 +0100

I was told yesterday that Talks is designing a programme to work with a touch phone. Anyone else know about this? Guess Neil and Steve do anyway.


Eleanor
----- Original Message ----- From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Talks-Uk Email group" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 4:02 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] FW: Re: Any more news...


I agree with Matt here, the N97 spec and build is excellent and i will be getting one, all nokia phones are well built though in my opinion but each is designed for a different customer type and like is clear on this list - we are all different and all have different wants from a phone/device. My want is a n97 as it suits my needs perfectly. Yes the iphone is great but three things put me off, no keyboard in addition to the touch UI, Cant put music or data on as easy as a nokia, and its on O2 - this is not a slate of O2 but just my opinion or preference as in the area i live they dont have the best signal. But this is different for everyone, there are issues with the bluetooth on the iphone too and they are behind on other specs like camera, memory etc so if you want a N97 as it suits your needs then just wait as eventually talks will work hopefully and when it does it will blow the iphone away!
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 25/09/2009 3:33 pm

Hi Matt,

At the moment it only supports 16GB, but when 32GB MicroSD cards come out,
it will support them.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Matt Brown
Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 14:41
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...

Thing is Neil, I did like the build quality of the N86, but as I doubt I'll
ever be able to afford the KNFB Reader software, the 8 MP camera is
pointless. I'm more likely to appreciate a huge memory because of all the
audio files I'm always carrying around with me. If the N86 had the N97's
memory I'd jump at it! But as far as I know it only supports a 16 GB memory
card, so I wouldn't even be able to expand the memory with the new 32 GB
cards coming out now!

Very disappointed with the 8 GB internal memory considering the huge 8 MP
camera they've put on it. I'd have expected a decent size memory because
pics and vids take up much more room than audio.

Matt

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From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 2:13 PM
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...

Mat,

You are right, the strip I referred to is on the E75 and not the N97.

The build quality on the N97 is very good, but no less or more though than
the N86.

Re iPhone, I think is is a general acceptance that for sighted blind folk,
that are able to see the screen to an extent, are able to use it far more
so
than totals.

Re cost saving, that is a relative term, on O2 the iPhone is in excess of
£450 or so, yet on contract with O2 you can get an N86 for £50, and Talks
full license for £150. This puts the Nokia and Talks combo £250 cheaper...

Just a thought for you, and of course if the new phone was your second or
beyond Talks phone then the saving is even more.



---Neil Barnfather
TalkNav

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-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Matt Brown
Sent: 25 September 2009 13:22
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...

Hi Neil, the build quality is amazing, the memory is unbelievable, I
thought

the keypad was nice but I think the strange metal strip you're referring
to
is actually on the new E75 not the N97. I looked at both phones and hated
that too.

I have heard that the N86 actually has a built in screen reader though?
that

might be interesting...

(Next paragraph refers to IPhone for those of you who don't want to read
anything other than Talks and Nokia stuff):

To be honest, I personally would jump the Nokia ship and switch to IPhone
3GS immediately if they'd only sort the battery life and Bluetooth issues
out, that phone is really amazing! I love the accessibility features
they've

built in, especially as I do have some small amount of vision so a
combination of the speech and the amazingly bright clear screen on the
IPhone means its pretty accessible for me. I can for instance, see each
icon

on the home screen, enough to position my finger accurately on the third
from the left for example. So the speech would help me learn that the
third
from the left is calendar say, then as I got better I'd just automatically
tap the third from the left, using my eyes to locate its general position
and the speech to confirm I've tapped the right one.

I believe the N97's screen is using the same screen technology as IPhone
so
the display can be set up to look as bright and clear which would benefit
me

no end!

Standing in carphone Warehouse the other day, I went from never holding an
IPhone before to sending a text message using the touch screen in less
than
5 minutes! And all that accessibility is built in and ready to go at no
extra cost! It also gets upgraded every time there's a software update,
also

at no extra cost!

Now I'm certainly not a Mac computer user and think Jaws and Windows
offers
us the very best solution, but I really think the IPhone may be to
handheld
coms devices what Windows on a PC is to computing.

Matt

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From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 12:55 PM
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...

Hi Eleanor,

No, it is a slide phone with a standard keypad with nice buttons.  QWERTY
is
awful in my view and I wouldn't touch it on phones.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 12:46
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...

How much is the N86?  Does it have a qwerty keypad?

Eleanor
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:45 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...


Hi Steve

So you've got the N86?  What do you love about it, and how do you think
it compares to the N82 and N79?  Really interested in what you have to
say.


Jackie Cairns
Braille Specialist
Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
Welton House North Wing
Summerhouse Road
Moulton Park
Northampton
NN3 6WD
Tel: 01604 798024
Mob: 07887 883815
www.sightandsound.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 25 September 2009 11:20
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...

Hi Matt,

No news yet.  But I love my N86.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Matt Brown
Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 11:08
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Any more news...

Hi, is there any more news about N97 and Talks? I'm getting to a point
where

I really have to make a decision, N86 or N97! I don't want to be
lumbered with an N97 if speech is months and months away if it comes at
all, but of the 2 handsets it has the feature set I'm looking for! Apart
from the 8 MP camera the N86 doesn't look a whole lot more powerful than
the N82 in reality, whereas the N97 is massivo!

Matt


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