Thought some might be interested. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: Easy Talk To: fcb-l@xxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 11:56 AM Subject: Fw: [fcb-l] Android for the blind versus iPhone. ----- Original Message ----- From: Easy Talk To: Mostafa ; "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@mail2.acb.org Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [fcb-l] Android for the blind versus iPhone. Hi Mostafa, Hopefully this info will help you make the best decision for your needs and want spark a debate between which phone is best apple or android. How ever when I am done you will certainly know which camp I am from. First of all the Iphones lock you in to not much choice of the hardware, operating system and phone carrier you will use. There are many manufactures of smart phones that run various versions of android and offer a wide variety of hardware options. Iphones use the Arm processors where as android phones use qualcom snap dragon and Nvidia Tegra processors which are faster than Arm processors. Iphones are limited in the quality of the cameras where as the android phones give you a wider range and this is very important if you plan to use your phone with camera intensive apps. For example, there is a OCR app called scan thing that is accessible but requires at least a 5 MP camera and does even better with a 8 MP camera. The Ios system is a closed operating system which means you only get what Apple wants you to have where as the android OS is Open Source which means third party developers can customize the operating system and add features that may not be in the original os. The down side of this is that some third party developers may add features that aren't accessible to blind users. In most cases when this happens, you can usually find an app that can replace the offending app and get around the problem. For example I have a HTC One s and the custom internet and contact manager wasn't accessible. I installed Fire Fox and a program called Acontact which are both accessible. The choice of hardware is also important. Here are some reasons. Many of the android phones have what are called composite buttons meaning they are physical buttons usually located at the bottom of the screen and are always there no matter what you are doing on the phone. Generally they are back, home and recent apps. You can not physically tell they are there tactilely and they generally don't speak, but if the hardware in your phone supports Haptic vibration, then as you move your finger over one of them, you will fill a short vibration. Also many of the android phones use what is called a proximity sensor and android uses this feature to stop speech. Many Android apps also use this feature for various things such as shaking the phone to answer a incoming call or placing the phone in a certain position to activate the speaker phone. With android phones you also have different screen sizes and are generally larger than those found on the Iphones. This means you have more screen relistate so items are easier to manage especially if you have large hands and fingers. I find the user interface on Android to be simpler and easier to use than the Iphones. This varies depending on which Android Os you are using. Currently the two current systems in use are Ice Cream Sandwich and Jelly bean. With ICS, basically you slide your finger to the item of interest and tap once on that item. To scroll, you use two fingers slightly spread to slide up or down the screen. You use two fingers to slide to the right or left to change screens. A tap and hold brings up the context menu for a particular item. Things get a little more complicated in Jelly Bean since a host of new features were added for accessibility in Talk Back the stock screen reader that comes with Android. All the new Gestures are called angle gestures. There are 16 combinations. Not all angle jestures are assigned to actions so you can assign the unused ones to meet your needs. Angle gestures mean you might slide your finger down and to the right which takes you to the home screen. Others are slide your finger up and right, finger up and left ect. To me that is easier than trying to remember if you use 1, 2, 3, or four fingers to tap, slide up, slide down, slide left or right and oh yes do I tap 1, 2, or 3 times as with the Iphones. Now let's look at accessibility. Both have built in screen readers and have established guide lines to make apps accessible. Most certainly the Apple products were the first and most likely that is why you see more blind people with Iphones. In the last year and a half Android has made leaps and bounds in accessibility. Siri was the new rave on the Iphones but with Jelly Bean it may have to take a back seet to Google Now voice actions. Peoples opinions will vary as to which is best but unless things have changed Siri requires you to have a internet connection in order to work but Android Voice actions can search your phone with out a internet connection. Android also has a feature called the notification bar that gives you information from various apps installed on the phone even when the screen is turned off. You can determine which notifications you want to hear. For example I use Cnn news and when there is a braking story I am told immediately. Some other things you can be notified about are weather and the arrival of new mail. With Jelly Bean both now offer Braille support. Another important factor is the phone provider you want to use. With Iphones it's ATnT or Verizon unless you purchase an unlocked phone from apple which you will pay a premium for. Most phone providers offer Android phones with a range of hardware options and if you are renewing your contract, you can get one much less expensive than a Iphones. Some of the pay as you go providers even offer lower end android phones that are accessible. Some of the popular Android phones used by blind people are the Samsung Galaxy S3 from Verizon and ATnT which are locked and the Nexus 4 which is a vanilla unlocked android phone and can only be purchased from Google. The nexus 4 is most likely the most accessible Android phone and can be used on any phone network right out of the box. Since it is a Google product, it will get new system updates much faster than phones that depend on the provider to push the upgrades. However it isn't the best hardware configuration. The Samsung and HTC models currently offer the fastest processors and highest resolution cameras. Most Android phones from phone providers haven't been upgraded to Jelly Bean yet but should be upgraded soon. I am pretty sure the Samsung s3 from ATnT has been updated to Jelly Bean. Here is a list of accessible android apps and descriptions. Darwin Wallet currency identifier The Voice of Android, GPS tracking, color identifier, Light detection. Eyes free keyboard accessible keyboard for Ice Cream Sandwich only. not needed by jelly Bean Eyes Free Shell, can replace the home screen for phones that don't have accessible home screens. Fire Fox, internet browser K-nine mail, email Acontact, contact manager CNN news Etrade, stock tracking Bank of America, banking app. Jeanie, $1.94 Voice search, best for ICS not needed for Jelly Bean. Scanthing $5.12 OCR, uses dedicated server for recognition takes about 15 seconds for results. need at least a 5 MP camera. Google Goggles, takes picture and gives description. Most of the apps on my HTC One S were accessible out of the box such as Google Maps, My location, FM radio, and music player. Hope this helps you choose Android,!!!!smile Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: Mostafa To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@mail2.acb.org Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 1:55 PM Subject: [fcb-l] Android for the blind versus iPhone. Hello. Cellphone adaptive technology for the blind is varying. There are various compatible platforms to try. But, it's quite obvious that there are two major competitors now in the market. Android, and iPhone. Well, without mentioning further details of their pros and cons, I have some queries which I demand them to be answered sufficiently. I have no intention for expressing commercials. I am frugal, and I just am about to substitute my cellphone with another one. But I am virtually uncertain of what to choose. I quite comprehend that iPhone has constantly been the first blind choice when it comes to sophisticated smartphones. I am currently using a humble symbian based cellphone with Talks. For those who use it or were using it for a period of time, they perfectly fathom that its license isn't cheap. Therefore, I am asking, is it worth it to go ahead and get an iPhone? What are the advantages and disadvantages of obtaining Android with either Mobile Accessibility or Talkback? How convenient Android Apps versus iPhone ones? Any suggestion or recommend, that tremendously would be appreciated. Mostafa. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ fcb-l mailing list fcb-l@xxxxxxx http://www.acb.org/mailman/listinfo/fcb-l