RR I agree with you on the reason so many senior military officers are being dismissed. But I think you missed my point on combat experience. I think of it more as an existential experience that transcends training or even discipline. Facing someone who is trying to kill you is as about as real as life gets. It changes the way you think about everything, not the least of which is blind obedience. That was the point I was trying to make. JS ____________________________________________________________ Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2