JJM and everyone
In my humble opinion It was reasonable and logical to put all
Japanese in the USA in internment camps, which were not
concentration camps, after the horrific, destructive, killing,
surprise Pearl Harbor attack because:
1. Not all of them were citizens.
2. Understandably most can speak and read Japanese.
3. Some had relatives in Japan they would be concerned about.
4. At least some might even worship the Emperor, who knows?
5. At least some would have read and listened to Japan and spoke to
their relatives AND EVEN THOUGHT THAT THE SURPRISE ATTACK
AGAINST A LARGER, MORE POWERFUL COUNTRY LIKE THE USA
WAS JUSTIFIED AS THE ONLY WAY THEY COULD WIN AND THAT
SANCTIONS WE HAD AGAINST JAPAN WAS UNJUSTIFIED EVEN
THOUGH THIS MATTER WAS UNDER DISCUSSION AT THE TIME
AND WOULD HELP SPIES THAT WERE ALREADY PLANTED HERE
OR WERE LANDED BY SUBMARINE.
6. It would be right if there was time and personal to question each
Japanese to determine if they were for or against us if practical?
7. Again, those USA citizens that volunteered for our army fought
hard enough in the European theater to win way above average
medals and I salute them.
House Senior Patriotic Jewish Socialist
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---Original Message-----
From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu, Dec 29, 2016 8:01 pm
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Four Links on Holocaust Experiments
OK.
All Americans of Japanese ancestry on the West Coast were judged to be a danger
to the state in the USA.
-----Original Message-----
From: "John J. Miller"
Sent: Dec 29, 2016 6:38 PM
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Four Links on Holocaust Experiments
Not all Jap. Americans were suspect; only those on the West Coast.
JJM
On 12/29/2016 6:46 PM, Ron Ristad wrote:
Discrimination means judging somebody on their race, religion, gender,
or national origin.
In this case:
All Jews were judged to be danger to the state in Germany.
All Americans of Japanese ancestry were judged to be a danger
to the state in the USA.
All German soldiers were judged to be Nazi war criminals. 3
million German soldiers were sent to forced labor camps in the Soviet
Union after the war ended without even being given a trial.
Were these things right or wrong? You can't say that one was
justified and another was not.
Obama has ordered drone strikes that have knowingly murdered
hundred's of innocent civilians. Does that make you and I murderers?
If you are a father of one of the children who were murdered by Obama
then the answer is yes. That's why I moved to another country that has
no military and doesn't engage in wars.
Accusing somebody of a crime against you does not excuse you
of crimes against them.
I am defending nobody. All of the parties involved were
equally guilty including own own country. To enter a conflict and
think that you will not be hurt is just plain stupid.
-----Original Message-----
From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
Sent: Dec 29, 2016 4:48 PM
To: "sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Four Links on Holocaust
Experiments
On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Ron Ristad
<ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
DR,
And you served in which branch of the
military?
Most German soldiers were drafted and they
didn't want to be soldiers in the first
place but had no choice.
Doesn't matter in this conversation.
This was a ruling that applied to all
German soldiers at the very beginning of
the trials, whether they were accused of
anything or not.
Where is the citation? I don't find what you say at
all.
I find this:
"The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of
his Government or of a superior does not relieve
him from responsibility under international
law, provided a moral choice was in
fact possible to him."
Unless you come up with a citation to show what you
say is true, we will not accept it as true.
And it's NOT discrimination! It's not there. ALL
German soldiers weren't found guilty at all at
the the War Crimes Trials.
73
DR
That's just how people think. It's called
discrimination. Many times it's wrong but
other times it can save your life. The
tiger might not eat you but...
I don't blame Jews, Nazis, communists or
myself for being what they are.
My solution to conflict is to avoid it.
When you go looking for trouble you should
not be surprised when you find it. When
you hit somebody you shouldn't be surprised when
they hit you back. This one of the things I
learned from my martial arts training. Even if you
win a fight you still take some damage. Like the
"Yes but you should see the other guy!" joke.
Communist Jews tried to take control of
the German government like they did in
Russia when they were less than 1% of the
population and were disliked and distrusted to
begin with. What in the world were they thinking?
A lot of innocent Jews died, along with 55
million other people, and a few Jewish
bankers became very wealthy.
-RR
-----Original Message-----
From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
Sent: Dec 29, 2016 8:53 AM
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Four Links
on Holocaust Experiments
"But at the Nuremberg trials and
afterwards Jews said that a
Nazi soldier could not claim
innocence because he was
only following orders.
[Second Part] They said that every
German was guilty for the
actions of other Germans. If
so then every Jew is also
guilty."
The Second Part isn't true. The
Nazi soldiers who followed
orders would know what they
would be doing and could
refuse.
Every German citizen did not know
what the Nazis were doing,
especially in the Jewish
concentration camps. They
could never be automatically guilty.
Similarly, every Jew could never be
automatically guilty.
73
DR
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