DR You are an optomist, instead of wasting your valuable time on a mere 31 listners why don't you send your ideas to some Letters to the Editor or apply for a teaching job at some college, perhaps invest in an ad? Think, think, think. Comrade B In a message dated 11/9/2013 12:15:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: DR, Detroit was once a union model for the entire country. Unfortunately the city government was also unionized. Teachers were (and still are I believe) the highest paid in the country. Government workers were paid top wages and health plans and were promised great pensions. Unfortunately local governments cannot borrow and print money like the Federal Government can so they were forced to raise taxes in order to pay for all these great benefits. Detroit is what every city in America will look like in the not-to-distant future. As for Iran, Israel has been saying for the past 25 years that Iran is only months away from building a nuclear bomb. And you still believe them? LOL. Iran has regular U.N. inspections. Israel won't allow them. Iran signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. Israel refuses the sign it. Iran signed the chemical weapons treaty. Israel refuses to ratify the chemical weapons treaty. By any measure they war criminals. UN adopts 22 resolutions against Israel and 4 for the rest of the entire world http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/12/un-adopts-22-resolut ions-against-israel-and-4-for-the-rest-of-the-entire-world.html -RR -----Original Message----- From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." Sent: Nov 9, 2013 10:12 AM To: "sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Federal Debt Jumped $409 Billion in October No, Stan, you haven't thought things through all the way. The now off-shore locations will return to the USA, new USA workers will be paid, new USA workers being paid will spend money, that money will increase the velocity of money in the economic system, which will improve the economy by depleting current goods and services which require an expansion of the manufacturing base (or of imports) to satisfy the need. This will undoubtedly make the rich richer - and some of the poor who invest in their companies - but we have income taxes as well as use taxes and property taxes, so the rich also would be taxed more if they became richer. Business is always going to go to the place where costs are least and regressive corporate income taxes can be a leading factor in their moving out of town. A good study is Detroit, MI - one hundred years ago, it was perhaps the richest city in the world. See what socialism has done to it, it is now impoverished, and crime ridden. Stanley, what do you think of President Obama's secretly cancelling the sanctions on Iran? This very much changes the balance of power in the middle east - Israel will no longer attack Iran to stop the atomic bomb production, I believe Iran will attack both Israel and Saudi Arabia once they have the atomic bomb. The question is will we be so impoverished and morally weakened by our diversion into socialism to defend ourselves from Muslim attack? They are already attacking Europe by immigration - Israel is the only nation that I know with laws to prevent this from happening by refusing the Arab spouses of Israeli citizens from obtaining Israeli citizenship. Once citizens, they have many children and their numbers will make them a majority in a generation. We must remember that we are in a war, and the propaganda makers are very skilled at feeding us poison. Obama numbers: http://www.people-press.org/2013/11/08/obamas-second-term-slide-continues/ The big three in which he is loosing are Economy (65% disapprove), ObamaCare (59% disapprove) and Foreign Policy (56% disapprove) I bet even the non-religious non-observant Jews (these are mainly Communists) will dislike his foreign policy - he is clearly pro-Muslim. He likes the Muslims in his family but does not like the Christians in his family (George Obama). His oldest brother whom he must obey under Islam is greatly involved in the Muslim Brotherhood and what President Obama is to support the Brotherhood - even against Israel. See http://shoebat.com/2013/09/27/president-obamas-brother-attacks-walid-shoebat/ 73 DR On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 6:43 AM, <_Sblumen123@aol.com_ (mailto:Sblumen123@xxxxxxx) > wrote: DR You have the honor of being the only one in the United States and even the whole world taking the position jn your post below of making the rich, richer and us poor folks poorer. If the corporations don't pay taxes then it is up to us the workers to pay off the national debit or should no one pay taxes? Great for the economy, all the modernized low labor factories will leave their present off shore locations and come running back to us no tax land and we will print more money to pay the civil servants, re-build bridges, roads etc. Think, think, think. Comrade B "If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." ― George Orwell