[sib-access] Re: NumPad Reporting Issues
- From: "Farfar on a Friday" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 13:57:42 -0800
Kevin,
Exactly what I get, also. In fact if you experiment with entering a note and
then pressing 8 for a sharp, it will say "sharp" but one will not be
applied. That's even more confusing in my mind. You have to go back to the
note and press sharp before it actually gets applied.
This must all stem (pardon the pun) from a note entry as being an incomplete
action until we move off the note, and that articulations and accidentals
don't get added until we land on a completed entry.
Of course if I had just entered an A# note instead of A then # I would have
had what I wanted in the first place.
Good observation, Kevin. I'll see if there is some deeper explanatory text
in the manual.
Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin L Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxx>
To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 13:49
Subject: [sib-access] Re: NumPad Reporting Issues
Dave,
I think I've come up with the reason why at least some of us have this bogus
report of no tie when the tie is, in fact inserted where you want it. I
have enough vision to have tested this and I have found the results
consistent.
1. Play a note on your MIDi keyboard and then immediately after playing
that note, press the numpad enter button for a tie in the common notes
template. when I say immediately, I merely mean that the tie command should
be your next keystroke. Feel free to allow as much time to elapse as you
wish between playing the note and pressing the tie. JAWS will say "No Tie."
In fact, the tie is inserted. However, because the insertion point has
moved to the next note entry position, JAWS correctly reports that you can't
insert a tie without a note.
2. However, if after inserting your note, you then immediately left arrow
once so that you are actually on the note instead of having moved to the
next entry position, pressing the numpad enter key will consistently report
tie or no tie correctly depending on the actual state of things at that
position. Everybody should check this out and see if the results I'm
describing are what you experience. If you do get the results I've
described, consistently, then all is working well.
Kevin
On Mar 1, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Farfar wrote:
> I'm thinking along the lines more and more that the problem being reported
> is graphics or color related, due to display settings on specific
> machines.
>
> The reason I think this is because of the old Sibelius 3 and the
> SibSpeaking
> interface. For those of you who remember setting up SibSpeaking, there was
> a
> large amount of time spent in training SibSpeaking to correctly recognize
> all the numpad graphics and their on/off states.
>
> When one of the numpad keys is pressed, a graphic changes color or shape,
> or
> something, and Sib Access is somehow reading this change and reporting the
> new state. Unless Dan Rugman has come up with a very different approach,
> this dependency on correctly reading the graphics may still be necessary.
>
> In fact, it's not only when pressing one of the keys, but also when
> navigating through the score, that Sib Access is reading note durations
> and
> other enhancements via graphics on the keypad changing. At least I'm
> presuming this.
>
>
> One idea I have for you to try (for those with this problem) is to make
> sure
> you've not only run your registry keys again, but that you've also made
> sure
> you copied all the JAWS files to the correct folder (your Settings/ENU
> folder for your user settings). I think Dan provided a graphics identifier
> file (Perhaps .JGF) with all the secrets contained there.
>
> Add this to my earlier tips on screen resolution and color settings, and
> that should keep you busy trying out different permutations.
>
> Maybe Dan will chime in to put me straight.
>
>
> Dave Carlson
> Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
> States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7
>
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