On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Muranyi, Arpad <Arpad_Muranyi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Those slides do not mention the clamps because they are > always ON (as shown on slide 4 in the same presentation). > Since they are always ON, they do not need to be switched > on and off, therefore whatever is in the clamp tables is > just added to the currents calculated on slides 5, 6, 8 > with a simple parallel PWL source for each clamp table. > This applies to clamps which are only active outside the > normal signaling region (above power or below GND) as > well as clamps which include on-die termination currents, > such as a pullup resistor to the power rail, which is > within the normal signaling range. By "added to", do you mean like the equations on slide 4: www.vhdl.org/pub/ibis/summits/mar06/muranyi1.pdf 0 = kpu(t) ⋅ IVpu(Vwfm1(t)) + IVpc(Vwfm1(t)) − kpd(t) ⋅ IVpd(Vwfm1(t)) − IVgc(Vwfm1(t)) − Iout(Vwfm1(t)) 0 = kpu(t) ⋅ IVpu(Vwfm2(t)) + IVpc(Vwfm2(t)) − kpd(t) ⋅ IVpd(Vwfm2(t)) − IVgc(Vwfm2(t)) − Iout(Vwfm2(t)) > Arpad > ========================================================== > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Russell Dill [mailto:Russ.Dill@xxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:36 AM > To: Muranyi, Arpad > Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Re: Weighting functions for weakly non-linear drivers > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Muranyi, Arpad <Arpad_Muranyi@xxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: >> Russell, >> >> Slides 5, 6, 8 of my presentation might help you in understanding >> the way those weighting functions can be calculated: >> >> http://www.eda.org/ibis/summits/jun03b/muranyi1.pdf >> > > I've noticed that the model in the presentation doesn't include > contributions from ground clamps or power clamps. If the waveform goes > beyond the rail when switching, is it necessary to include these > contributions? > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu