Hello Arvind, the goal in designing a clean (reflection-free) signal path is to have homogeneous characteristic impedance all along the path (typically ZoP Ohm unless you are working with TV signals that use 75 Ohms). The characteristic impedance is determined by the ratio of inductance Lu per unit length and capacitance Cu per unit length: Zo=sqrt(Lu/Cu) A signal via and its closest return via (or vias) are just part of that path. Changing the distance d between signal and return via changes both capacitance C and inductance of that via structure (C decreases with d, and L increases with D), so you can use that to tune the impedance of the via structure. Ideally you'll achieve 50 Ohms although this is hard to do with just a single return via. In that ideal case (ZoP Ohms) the via structure becomes completely transparent to the signal, i.e. it only causes delay (delta_t = sqrt(C x L)) but no reflections. Designing a well-matched via structure is a challenge and typically need either a good 3D simulation tool or a few test boards to get it right at high data rates. Rules of thumb ar hardly sufficient although they can provide at least a goot starting point as well as show the "knobs" you can use to adjust the impedance (for via structure, there a are many knobs - via diameter and distance, stub or stub drilling, pad/antipad diamaters, and so on). The lambda/20 rule you mention comes from the fact that typically structures that are very short against the shorted wavelength (highest frequency) of interest only have negligible influence on the waveform, i.e. produce only minimal reflections even when they are mismatched (Zo <> 50 Ohms). This is of course just a crude rule of thumb. Whatthe lambda/20 rule achieves very nicely is that it forces you to place a return via close to every signal via. This is important - current is always flowing in a loop so if there is no return via close by, the return current has to "go looking" for the nearest return path which may be quite a detour - this will cause a large parasitic inductance in the path (because the current now encloses a large loop are) and resulting large reflection and reduced bandwidth. Wolfgang arvind yadav <arvind.yad1983@xxxxxxxxx> Sent by: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 10/22/2009 09:45 AM To si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx cc Subject [SI-LIST] RF Layout - Via spacing Hello All, I am working on a RF Layout. I looked into some design guidelines and had some doubt on gnd via spacing requirement . Guideline said that ë/20 distance has to be maintained between gnd vias that are stitched on either side of the RF signal Can any one please let me know the reason for this requirement ? I also would like to know what would be the gnd backoff distance from the RF signal and the reason . Thanks Arvind.H ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu